I'm surprised to say the least. What's everyone else think?
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Well, 10 months after Bush took office, we were at war with Iraq, so I think Obama's track record is a bit better in that regard.
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I did a bit of a double-take, myself. But as I see it, he's done a pretty amazing job rehabilitating the image of the US in the world's eyes and re-involving the country in international relations.
Think about that speech he gave in Cairo a few months ago... an American politician who could speak to the world in a respectful, non-patronizing manner, while demonstrating a clear knowledge and respect for customs, is an unfortunate rarity these days.
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When my local news covered it, they mentioned that the deadline for Nobel peace prize nominations is February 1st...which means that whoever submitted him did so based off of his first week and a half in office.
I think he's doing a good job in office and all...but wtf? This is a bit too soon.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: Well, 10 months after Bush took office, we were at war with Iraq, so I think Obama's track record is a bit better in that regard.
But are we not still at war in both Iraq and Afghanistan? Has Obama really made any substantial changes to Bush's policies on those fronts? What peace, exactly, are we talking about?
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quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: I'm going to laugh my tuckus off if he starts WWIII now
Hell yeah! This is like a coupon for "One free war" or possibly a "Get out of Mideast Conflict free" card.
Sure pushes the bad taste of the Olympics out of the news cycle though.
Republicans: FAUX OUTRAGE. Really, they're irate that our country's president got one of the world's highest honors- WTF?!? Yep, this will keep the conspiracy nuts going for a good long while...
It's a pretty odd thing though- Obama himself said he was suprised and that he did not deserve this, but I now see the rationale behind it- a former Peace Prize winner was saying that the award is as much for fostering peace and goodwill as anything else- Jimmy carter sure never made peace in the middle east but got the award for trying (and for bringing it to the forefront of world attention, I suppose).
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: Well, 10 months after Bush took office, we were at war with Iraq, so I think Obama's track record is a bit better in that regard.
But are we not still at war in both Iraq and Afghanistan? Has Obama really made any substantial changes to Bush's policies on those fronts? What peace, exactly, are we talking about?
Well, he is pulling soldiers out of Iraq as quickly as the timetable allows, he's closing Gitmo (it's already 75% empty of illeagaly held detainees)aaaaand....er....he got that dog....and...um...
Hey, he's at least as good a choice as some of the former reciepants- but everyone thinks this is too soon.
Watch for Obama to accept the award on behalf of some worthy cause like the Iranian freedom demonstrators or something cool like that.
And it's not like he can turn down the award- that would be a biiig political nightmare.
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"Well, 10 months after Bush took office, we were at war with Iraq..."
Afghanistan. We didn't invade Iraq until March 2003.
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It's either to praise him or shame him. Take your pick.
Everyone I talked to, whether they liked him or not had to do a double take to see if the universe was still standing or something.
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I'm waiting for the Obama Shrine doll to be released so everyone can bow before it and do obeisance in their own home.
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quote:But are we not still at war in both Iraq and Afghanistan? Has Obama really made any substantial changes to Bush's policies on those fronts? What peace, exactly, are we talking about?
quote:Afghanistan. We didn't invade Iraq until March 2003.
My point was that Obama didn't start any of those wars. He just inherited them. And I also never said that he deserved the peace prize, just that his track record was better than Bush's.
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