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The First One
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed
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I see. Like anyone was ever going to bother attacking the USA. Reality check: the USSR wasn't. They knew they wouldn't win, even with their massive armed forces, and they knew that if they nuked everyone then there wouldn't be anyone left to convert to communism. It was the States who were simultaneously juggling the concept "better dead than Red" with a pious determination that they wouldn't start a nuclear war.

Now, children, which of those two rules do you think would be the first to be broken after the Warsaw Pact had overrun Western Europe in two days? And if you think it's the "better dead than Red" you'd be wrong.

So, please, let's have none of this "we have nukes so nobody will f*** with us" rubbish. The only likely use of the arsenal anytime soon will be if certain religious bigots (who have a representation here) get to see their religious dictatorship installed, in which case I suspect the rest of the world will be told very politely "worship Christ or die."


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Omega
Some other beginning's end
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Religious bigots have a representation here? I haven't run into any.

And I meant that nobody will attack us with their own nukes. Our army can handle conventional warfare. Well, at least it could before Clin-Ton got here. We were supposed to be able to fight a war on three fronts. Now I doubt we could fight on one very effectively.

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"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That "all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people . . ." To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition."
- Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1791


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RW
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Religious bigots? The US is full of them. And yes, I know they're not only in the US. They're here too. They're in our parliament too (not too many though, luckily), they want theocracy, and I hate their undemocratic guts, but I know they're pretty harmless. Now, if anyone here still thinks I'm only bitching about the US.. :]

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TSN
I'm... from Earth.
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Someone mentioned that the reason we need a huge nuclear arsenal is so, if someone attacks us, we can wipe them off the planet (or something to that effect; I didn't bother to go back and look). Actually, this is precisely the reason not to have a large nuclear arsenal. If you've got it, you're going to be tempted to use it. Think about it...

Large nuke stockpile: Somebody attacks us, we attack back, nuclear holocaust.

No nuke arsenal: Somebody attacks us, they run out of nukes, we wipe them out w/ conventional weaponry. Much less chance of global nuclear winter...

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Omega
Some other beginning's end
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Hitting one small country isn't going to cause a global winter. Of course, now that China poses a legitimate threat, thanks to Clinton selling them three decades of technology and the ability to hit anywhere on the planet, I'm getting ready for another cold war, and we just have to hope that some wacko doesn't get in charge over there. Insanity and the ability to destroy the planet have never been combined before, and for good reason. We wouldn't be here if they had been. Again, SOMEONE HAS TO FINISH THE SDI! That's what killed the USSR. Without their missiles, they were nothing, and they knew that SDI would make their missiles useless.

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"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That "all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people . . ." To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition."
- Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1791


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