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Timo
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Very true. However, that side was not the side of France by a long shot. If anything, the US was solidly allied with one enemy of France (the UK, which after the Phony War withdrew first the RAF and then the Expeditionary Army, then bombarded the French Navy and its North African ports, invaded French Mideastern colonies and mandates, and generally did its damnedest to turn Petain into a Hitler ally) while gearing up for a war against another.

The history of the past century is quite a bit more complex than just "A against B between years X and Y". Trying to evoke analogies, symmetries and other such simplifications is likely to be met with a barrage of exceptions and counterexamples.

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Uh, where is France mentioned in this thread?
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AndrewR
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Does anyone think that this is about OIL amongst other things. A lot of these terrorists are funded through the OIL industry. Why doesn't the US Government and Oil companies who have bought the technology start releasing this new tech? I mean it'd totally remove the power-base of these terrorist groups and their associated sympathetic countries.

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quote:
Why doesn't the US Government and Oil companies who have bought the technology start releasing this new tech?
Because the power base of the US government is also oil.

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AndrewR
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But if they already own the new techs - then they can do away with the oil and exploit the new techs.

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quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
Does anyone think that this is about OIL amongst other things.

Probably the originator of this thread.
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When I said "war", I was referring to actual full-fledged shooting wars. One could argue that we've been continuously at war w/ Iraq since '91, what w/ the no-fly zones, and such. In WW2, we may have been siding w/ the UK, and we may have helped escort their ships and such, but we weren't actively seeking German targets to strike at. And, regardless, even if we chose sides before being attacked ourselves, someone had been attacked. The war started because Germany invaded Poland. No-one invaded Germany because they thought Hitler might attack someone, which is basically what we're doing here.
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PsyLiam
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Charles Kennedy rules, frankly.

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In the 1940's, a nation sent a declaration of war. This simple courtesy was badly handled by the Japanese on December 7, 1941. Due to inexperience with a typewriter and a shortage of qualified typewriters, the Japanese declaration of war was delivered, contrary to instructions from Tokyo, after the strike on Pearl Harbor. We can assume the American people were infuriated by an attack which was not preceded by a declaration of war.

I am confused as to the procedures followed by nations nowadays. I question if our leaders have a similiar confusion and are choosing a path which is the most clear to them.

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quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
Charles Kennedy rules, frankly.

Where's frankly?

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quote:
Originally posted by Topher:
quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
Does anyone think that this is about OIL amongst other things.

Probably the originator of this thread.
Ya think?

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