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I think you are right, but Saddam can't nuke anyone or disrupt a major economic center just thirty miles or so from his boarders.
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Blow up a couple of dams, and the only thing that will be running in the streets of Baghdad will be eight feet of water.
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We could nuke them too. Then we would win without any problems at all.
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The typical American conservative thinks its perfectly okay to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civillians to get a "bad guy" (actually, many of them think that if you're not American, you're a "bad guy"), but you so much as look at an American civilian funny, it's time to kill ya'.
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The typical American Liberal, on the other hand, thinks it's perfectly okay for a "bad guy" to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians (actually, many of them think that if you're American, you're a "bad guy")... unless the President opposing the "bad guy" is himself a Liberal (which explains their resounding non-opposition to the 1999 US-led, non-UN-involving military action in a sovreign nation against a democratically-elected government.)
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quote:thinks it's perfectly okay for a "bad guy" to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians
Of course, it was Reagan in office when Hussein was killing the Kurds (why didn't he stop Hussein from killings those innocents? Oh yeah, he was giving Hussein money and weapons). And Bush Sr. did no less than to break his promise to the Kurds to provide them military support, and also allowed the Iraqis to fly their choppers and kill many more Kurds (this AFTER the Gulf War!). Yeah. Gee, and you wonder why people don't believe the "reasons" Bush-The-Stupider gives for this war?
The United States of America has directly provided funds and weapons to Hussein, and also not only botched ONE opportunity to take him out of power, but in doing so, also gave him the opportunity to kill a lot more Kurds. And all we hear from conservative assholes is about how America is doing the world a favor by taking Hussein out. Favor my ass. That'd be like me chopping off Rob's limbs, then offering to buy him a wheelchair ten years later. Yeah, I'd be doing Rob a real favor.
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Really, First, you're beginning to sound like a broken record. This isn't about getting rid of bad guys, or you would've ousted Saddam *and* all assorted wackjob dictators (hint: the world is rife with them) long before Dubya got to carry out his charming vendetta. Are you THAT deluded?
Hooray for consistency.
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This isn't about getting rid of bad guys, or you would've ousted Saddam *and* all assorted wackjob dictators (hint: the world is rife with them) long before Dubya got to carry out his charming vendetta.
Yes, because Rob has absolute power over the US military...
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As long as we're pointig historical fingers at each other there is this to consider: A few days back the "Iron Lady of Serbia" plead guilty to war crimes for her part in the deaths of 2 million people. The World Court gave her 11 years. That's under half hour per person killed. The world thinks we're on a rampage but they hand out wrist slaps for mass murder. Imagine this: SHe got 11 years for 2 million dead. What would Bin Laden get? Five? Ten? Like it or not we're going after our enimies and I doubt the disapproval of France, Germany or anyone else will dissuade us. With monsters like this getting lighter sentences than a murderer on one in the US, it's no wonder the world's opinion means "so much". http://www.un.org/icty/plavsic/trialc/judgement/ Read on in horror.
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Well, Bin Laden did only kill an insignificant number of people. Compared with other people that might in theory face the Int'l Court, that is. Handing out jail sentences of 12,345 years only serves to ridicule the justice system.
And it's difficult to imagine a worse punishment than 5 years in jail for Bin Laden, really, unless one loiters to the cruel and unusual territory. This would mean he'd die in the prison hospital, not even martyred by an American bullet.
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The point is that there is no real deterrent for mass murder. In the states we have Charles Manson under wraps forever for less than ten murders, but 2 million dead does'nt even warrant a life sentence in the eyes of the World Court.
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Snay conveniently ignores his own crap attack and focuses on my equally crap response, precisely what I expected him to do.
quote:And Bush Sr. did no less than to break his promise to the Kurds to provide them military support, and also allowed the Iraqis to fly their choppers and kill many more Kurds (this AFTER the Gulf War!) ... The United States of America has directly provided funds and weapons to Hussein, and also not only botched ONE opportunity to take him out of power, but in doing so, also gave him the opportunity to kill a lot more Kurds.
Yes, horrible things DO happen when the US bows to international public opinion, we've established that. Do you have something NEW to add?
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I see. For twenty-years, the US supports Hussein, leaves him in power, does nothing when he murders his own citizens, and now *all* that is the fault of the international community.
Yeah. What a line of bullshit. No wonder we have so many of these assholes in office now -- the world is so complicated, people would rather go along with the simplistic lies of the Republicans.
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Umm... can we stop with the pointless recriminations about whose fault the current situation is, and talk about what we're supposed to do NOW? Or has the time for action given way to the time for senseless bickering?
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