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Cartman
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Welcome back from the abyss, Simon.

I dont recall anyone ever actually saying saddam had nukes (certainly not me), but that they were afraid he'd get them, given time.

That sort of takes the "M" and the "D" out of the whole WMD shebang then, doesn't it?

There will be no "coallition of nations" to *ever oppose NK: it's just not a viable target while a true screwball is in charge of nuclear weapons.

I'd say Saddam was as big a screwball as Kim, and he was a viable enough target. I mean, there was plenty of concern Saddam might panic and use whatever weapons he did have on Coalition troops, yet the invasion was gone ahead with anyway, so either the immediate danger wasn't that immediate after all or there were other factors weighing in on the decision.

Besides, if you only oppose countries with semi-screwballs in charge of their nuclear arsenals because it's safer (and more lucrative), you won't be opposing much.

Kinda nullifys any power the UN, US, NATO or any Coallition has, once the bad guys have the big stick, we do nothing while people suffer.

Aaand bingo, you've hit the double standard.

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TSN
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"That sort of takes the 'M' and the 'D' out of the whole WMD shebang then, doesn't it?"

You'd think so. Except that they throw chemical and biological weapons under the "WMD" label, too. Despite the fact that they're really just weapons of mass death, rather than destruction.

"I'd say Saddam was as big a screwball as Kim..."

Well, there's a little bit of a difference. Saddam was more of a mini-Hitler. Kim is more of a mini-Caligula.

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Saltah'na
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http://www.markfiore.com/animation/dictator.html

May be before the Invasion of Iraq, but still relevant.

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
"That sort of takes the 'M' and the 'D' out of the whole WMD shebang then, doesn't it?"

You'd think so. Except that they throw chemical and biological weapons under the "WMD" label, too. Despite the fact that they're really just weapons of mass death, rather than destruction.

They don't have to change the letters though. Convenience!

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Omega
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Kinda nullifys any power the UN, US, NATO or any Coallition has, once the bad guys have the big stick, we do nothing while people suffer.

As opposed to all those other times.

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Jason Abbadon
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Well, yeah...that's the point.
Once a dictator gets to the Nuke stage, they're suddenly allowed military leeway for fear of nuclear exchange.

As to WMD, biological and chemical weapons are still filed under the "Mass destruction" label.
Even horrible novelties like White Phosphorus weapons count.

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AndrewR
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Well the next animation is quite relevent even now.

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/dissent.html

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