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Jason Abbadon
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Religous Education?!?
Man, that's fucked...sex education would serve society far better thn delving into paranormal nonsense.
Is there a cryptozoolgy elective as well?
You could do a thesis on 'Nessie. [Wink]

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Wraith
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RE is a statutory requirement. Technically you're supposed to do it until the end of sixth form but most schools don't. We just signed a form saying we didn't want to do it. Also some of the slightly less mainstream religions/denominations can get exemptions. It's supposed to be in support of the C of E; social cohesion and all that. Nowdays, of course, there's much more about other religions.

We do sex education as well, it's part of the science course.

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Jason Abbadon
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Well, at least it''s not part of the religous course!
I imagine they keep the science and religion classes at opposite ends of the schoolday.
...to avoid confusion when it's test time, of course.

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Actually sex ed is covered in primary school, yr6 when I did it, (age 10-11) and being at a Catholic high school it wasn't really touched upon outside of biology, which is voluntary anyway and rather dull. My school had a history department with a staff of 2 teachers and no money, but it was certainly the most interesting subject I studied, if only for the fact that both teachers were off their rockers.

RE, bah, useless nonsense, I'd ban it m'self especiall the way they taught it at my school, only Christianity was covered, and most of it was Catholic (being a Catholic school you know) in our exam essays we were not allowed to disagree with the Catholic view, bassically you wouldn't get marks if you started arguing that the Catholic are wrong, you mention other arguements but can't support them. Bar Stewards.

Oh and haven't they changed IT to ICT now? All I remember was playing Unreal Tournament on the servers against my mates after classes LOL.

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Nim
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I got sex ed in 9th grade biology. It was cartoon-based, but they did show the old in-out in-out in conjunction with condom applying so we would get it. Somewhat arousing, even. It was a nice 45 minutes spent.
Thank you, government!

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Jason Abbadon
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Was it hentai?
Tenticle Anime?

I got Sex Ed in reform school (age 14) from a really really slutty girl in a pool.

Just a grope and wnk but still very educational.

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Omega
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Cartoon based?

"Eeeeewww!" "She's faking it."

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"Just a grope and wnk..."

That was a rather inopportune time to demonstrate your inability to operate a keyboard...

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Well RE biggest joke ever. In Australia they stop doing it around 14. Unless you go to a religious based school (catholic for example) where it is oh so subtly rammed down peoples throats.

My only memories of RE are from getting into trouble for mocking the good lord. But shit happens. I can't remember a single person taking that class even slightly seriously.

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quote:
Originally posted by Daryus Aden:

My only memories of RE are from getting into trouble for mocking the good lord. But shit happens. I can't remember a single person taking that class even slightly seriously.

Sounds familiar. It's a good job there were no Muslims in my Islam class or I'm fairly certian we'd have had a fatwa on us within 5 seconds.

That Telegraph article (I've copied the whole thing as you have to log on to the web site):

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The lessons of Empire
(Filed: 15/07/2004)


Few teenagers today learn about the British Empire, says Andrew Cunningham

Fifty years ago, their names tripped off the tongue: Clive of India, Wolfe of Quebec, Captain Cook, Mungo Park, Livingstone and Stanley, Baden-Powell of Mafeking, Kitchener of Khartoum. Every schoolchild grew up knowing these imperial greats. On the wall of most classrooms was a map of the world, one-third coloured pink, as a reminder.

Now, 50 years of 'progressive' education and misguided history teaching have done what these figures' opponents never quite managed � killed them off. Ask any teenager today about the illustrious names on this list and you'll meet with a complete blank. As far as history teaching in schools is concerned, the British Empire may as well not have happened. Our children are never taught about it.

These are the unsurprising findings of Ofsted, which complained this week that schools spend "insufficient time" learning about the Empire. "Insufficient time"? Surely, the understatement of the year. Ofsted's inspectors found that pupils aged 11 to 16 receive a mere three or four lessons on the subject in five full years at school.

The Empire barely features on the GCSE syllabuses, which devote most of their attention to trendy topics, such as Hitler, Stalin, the General Strike and Cold War. Our teenagers know all about the Nazis and trade unionism, but nothing about the Empire upon which the sun, once so famously, never set.

What little information does filter through tends to be sickeningly one-sided: condemning the British Empire as some brutal aberration. One BBC website aimed at schoolchildren came up with this analysis: "The Empire came into greatness by killing lots of people... and stealing their countries." The reality, of course, is that the British Empire was special largely because it was based on commerce, not conquest.

As Ofsted argues: "Pupils should know about the Empire." Why not put it more strongly? It should be top of the syllabus. Yes, of course the Empire can be a sensitive subject (though not, perhaps, as sensitive as its detractors would have us believe) and should be taught in the context of its own, vastly different world order.

Pupils should be aware that its legacy can be interpreted differently, according to beliefs and background. They should also realise (as if they need reminding) that imperialism � whether British, French or American � is no longer acceptable. But, in addition to being the biggest Empire the world has ever seen, ours was also the most benign. It deserves better than to be consigned to oblivion, 100 years after its Edwardian heyday.

One fact is certain: the British Empire won't be so easily forgotten around the globe. From Canada to Calcutta, the West Indies to Gibraltar, the Empire has left a permanent legacy: the English language, a strong sense of liberty, an impartial legal system and stable parliamentary government.

To this day, India remains the world's largest democracy. From Calais down to the Cape of Good Hope lie the graves of the men and women who died building that Empire: who died believing in a cause that, a century on, seems so politically incorrect and flawed. In superb poems, such as Thomas Hardy's Drummer Hodge (dedicated to the British dead at Spion Kop, South Africa, 1900), their memory lives on.

Rudyard Kipling, of course, was the chief writer of Empire. It's easy to sneer today at some of his sayings � "the White Man's burden", "East is East, and West is West", "Come you back to Mandalay". We conveniently forget the strong sense of sacrifice that underpinned his work and the ways of Empire. It was Kipling who wrote: "You're a better man than I am" of the native servant, Gunga Din � and meant it.

And we delude ourselves if we think the Empire can be quietly forgotten. So many of us are still bound to it. Not in the sense of grand ideals, events and achievements, maybe, but in the mementos and memories we inherit from our own pasts. Uncle Charlie's medals, Great Uncle Trev's pith helmet, Great Grandad's battered trunk that went all the way to Bombay and back. This is history brought to life. Nearly every UK citizen has relatives spread all over the world. Long-lost cousins living in places whose names alone evoke the imperial connection: British Columbia, New South Wales, Nova Scotia, New England.

Its legacy is all around us back home, too. In the names of our streets; in the time-stained statues in our squares; in our language, with its mix of imported words from former colonies (khaki, jodhpurs, bungalow, mufti). The imperial legacy lives on in the fact that Britain is now so ethnically diverse: with so many from the former colonies having, in turn, come to the "mother country". The Empire has brought people from Pakistan, India, Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa and Jamaica to live together in Britain in relative harmony.

Now, more forward-thinking historians, such as Niall Ferguson, are at last giving the Empire credit for its many achievements. As Ferguson says in a recent book: "The Empire maintained a global peace, unmatched before or since."



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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
"Just a grope and wnk..."

That was a rather inopportune time to demonstrate your inability to operate a keyboard...

Yeah....I was bust cleaning up the house for your information though. [Wink]

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Jason Abbadon
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All you ever need to read on the "Empire" and colonialism is H.G. Well's War of The Worlds.
It was written specifically to make people think about the morality of such things.

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I'm not sure it's adviseable to read just one work on anything. Especially by an author with strong political views. Like basing all your knowledge of Soviet Russia on Pravda. The best recent book on the British Empire is the one by Niall Fergusson. It's good that people are beginning to move away from the 'Empire was pure evil' view; it's somewhat silly and certainly not supported by historical evidence unless you're quite selective. Granted, it wasn't exactly a bundle of joy for everyone, but the British Empire was a hell of a lot better than the European Empires. Especially towards the end of the 19th century and into the twentieth.
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And the only empire in history to die in peace and with relative dignity, IIRC.

Just curious, like the fall of the Der Mauer was the fall of Soviet Russia, what is considered the last day, month or year the British Empire existed as a recognized entity? The big event? Was it the death of the last british king?

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15th August 1947 - Independence Day in India. The day we gave up the jewel in the crown was was without doubt the end of the Empire.

Read Freedom at Midnight, by Dominique Lapierre and Larry Collins. It tells the whole story of how Independence came about, and it's a very moving story of human tragedy and frailty and stupidity. I lived in India for three years in the 1970's, it's an amazing country.

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