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Jason Abbadon
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Well, it's at least as likely as the government's claims:
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Many American youngsters participating in federally funded, abstinence-only programs have been taught in the past three years that abortion can lead to sterility and suicide, that half the gay male teen-agers in the United States have tested positive for the HIV virus, and that touching a person's genitals "can result in pregnancy," a congressional staff analysis has found.

Niiiice of the government to teach such "facts" in schools.
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Among the misconceptions Waxman's investigators cited:

>A 43-day-old fetus is a "thinking person."

>HIV, the virus that precedes AIDS, can be spread via sweat and tears.

>Condoms fail to prevent HIV transmission as often as 31 percent of the time in heterosexual intercourse.

The whole story:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-aabstinence02dec02,0,3970489.story?coll=sfla-news-nationworld


Can you say Right-Wing Agenda?

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PsyLiam
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Arafat has AIDS because he was gay and he died of AIDS and gayness. Apparently.

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Nim
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The conservatives are so na�ve to think that eliminating the opportunity (abstaining) will eliminate the problems. Fucking ostrich-method.

"Bill Smith /.../ said the Waxman report underscored the need for closer monitoring of what he called the "shame-based, fear-based, medically inaccurate messages" being disseminated with tax money.
He said the danger of abstinence education lies in the omission of useful medical information.

Some course materials cited in Waxman's report present as scientific fact notions about a man's need for "admiration" and "sexual fulfillment" compared with a woman's need for "financial support."


They are ignorant! They want to relive the 1950's, where kiddies followed curfew hours and masturbation caused spinal diseases.

Suddenly I get the urge to send huge amounts of money to feminist organisations.

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Grokca
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masturbation caused spinal diseases.

Could be true, of course it would depend on how you masturbate.

What American needs is a constitutional ammendment which bars pre-marital sex. That would solve the problem. A ban on gay marriages is going to make gays go away, right?

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Nim
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Spinal injury maybe, for those who hang from chandoliers and powerfap, but diseases? Only if you whack off in a glove full of rusty needles.

Speaking of fap, I was just going to say that I discovered what my future pornstar name will be (Harry Palms) but a quick search showed that it was taken. GRRR.
Apparently he starred in "XXX Trek - The Final Orgasm".

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Grokca
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Was that with Jen Lic Prickhard?

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Aban Rune
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Based on my steadily slipping level of sanity, I'd say that abstinance causes *something*... don't know about stupidity.

My question is, can't abstinance be taught without resorting to lies, misinformation, fear and generally all kinds of crap that makes these people look they they think they're wrong to begin with?

I was taught abstinence... it's called having parents who care about what I do with my life. Why is this being taught in schools anyway? And please tell me those kids in that study didn't get paid not to have sex. If they did, the government owes me some cash.

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Lee
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The revelation that Alan has forsworn playing Hide The Sausage shakes me to the core.

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Diane
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Morality disguised as facts.

I saw the movie "Kinsey" this past weekend. It's about the life and work of Dr. Alfred Kinsey, who basically pioneered studies of sexual behaviors and made sex "normal". It is amazing how far we've come in terms of sexual openness and depressing how some things stay the same.

Here is a review of it by Roger Ebert with a synopsis: Kinsey review

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TSN
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"My question is, can't abstinance be taught without resorting to lies, misinformation, fear..."

Well, no, not so much. I mean, which do you think will get more results? "Don't have sex because YOU WILL DIE HORRIBLY!!!" or "Don't have sex because it makes baby Jesus cry"?

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Charles Capps
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Hello? Purtanism. Sex is bad, donchaknow.
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Omega
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Of course abstenence can be taught without resorting to misinformation and fear. Example: "Condoms. Made like this, work like this, protect against some diseases, have q% failure rate at preventing pregnancy. Birth control pills. Made like this, work like this, protect against NO diseases, minimal failure rate if used correctly, but you damn well better use 'em correctly. X, Y, and Z side effects. Abstinence. Prevents all sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy, always." Manipulating people to get them to act how you want is always going to backfire when applied on a large scale. The best you can do is give them accurate information with which to make their own decision.

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Veers
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Actually, to the Puritans, sex was bad only if you weren't married.

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by Omega:
Prevents all sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy, always."

The fact that people need to be said that not having sex will prevent them from causing pregnencies is perhaps the scariest thing.

"Hey kids, if you don't want to get fat, why don't you solder your lips together so that no food can enter them? You'll be dropping pounds in no time."

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Hobbes
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quote:
Originally posted by Nim':
... and masturbation caused spinal diseases.

Actually, regarding masturbation...

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