And yes, I am accutely aware of the irony (if not the ridiculousness) of an American concerned about foreign civil liberty issues at this particular historical junction, but the ambition of this project is just wild. I mean, it is out there. It is pretty seriously 21st century.
quote:"Every time you make a car journey already, you'll be on CCTV somewhere. The difference is that, in future, the car's index plates will be read as well," said Frank Whiteley, Chief Constable of Hertfordshire and chairman of the Acpo steering committee on automatic number plate recognition (ANPR).
"What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes. Particularly important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.
The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to be of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen vehicle. You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley explained.
Imagine the Google Maps hack you could put together with this data.
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This worries me. We get enough instances of someone stealing your number plate with speed cameras and the congestion charge, this will just make things worse.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Not quite the right question, as the UK doesn't have a constitution.
Well, we do, it's just not codified.
I suppose it could be challenged under Article 8 of the Convention on Human Rights/Human Rights Act.
Given the history of government computer systems though, it'll probably be late, over budget and won't work properly anyway.
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The perfect murder alibi- just get a copy made of your tag or put on a riend's car for the day. "But...your honor- I was no where near the crime when it occured!"
Pretty "Big Brother" though. I recall talk of something like it in the proposed "national I.D. card" BushCo wanted just after 9/11. Something satelite-friendly.
Any criminal/terrorist could just steal a car and kill it's owner on the day they use they need the vehicle- a missing person's report (here) takes at least 24 to establish...and a vehicle stolen from a business might take several days to be noticed (a used car or rental dealership as example).
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Time to EMP the planet before Skynet comes online.
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...[the report] does outline a public relations strategy (with "press releases and/or editorials" at a "very early stage") to persuade the American public that this kind of contraption would be, contrary to common sense, in their best interest.
That's easy, just have those press releases mention that it will make their CAHNTRY SAFAH and protect them from TEH TERAHRWRISTS, and within a month there won't be a single non-bugged car left on the road anywhere in the US.
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My old ass car barely has a computer at all- time to buy vintage and avoid the Man.
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Time to go buy a bunch of old muscle cars... then sell them off at 10 times their value to survivalists once this starts really making news.
On a side note...I know that a vehicle has to meet certain safety features to be allowed into production in the U.S., but what's to keep an individual from building their own vehicle from scratch? (sans all electronic components)
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Nothing I know of- only new vehicles need the safety requirements from what I have seen.
One of my friends has an old chevy taht's a registered "classic car" with the state, but it has all the the original parts, including the steering column (notorious for impaling the driver during collisions).
Lotsa old deathtraps on the road.
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