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TSN
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A decade? I'm thinking that's a somewhat... optimistic estimate.
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Lee
I'm a spy now. Spies are cool.
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Yes, the Eugenics Wars really did set us back at least fifty years.

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AndrewR
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quote:
Originally posted by Da_bang80:
It's kind of scary to think that in a decade or so, we may be able to access the internet with only our minds and a computer implant. Someone might create a computer virus that fries your brain. Or uploads dirty perverted anime furry dickchick fantasies into your head. Now THAT'S scary!

I don't want Windows security holes in my brain!
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B.J.
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quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
The whole aol thing - is that why they always (and some still do) advertise "aol keyword:fucknutters" etc.

They still do that in some places? I haven't seen that as part of an ad in quite a while.

B.J.

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TSN
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It's rare, but I still see it once in a great while. I haven't paid close attention, though. I'm guessing it may only be used by Time-Warner companies.
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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
I thought it was - but I couldn't see his name on the site - it was a bit of a give-away when he said "When, seventeen years ago, I designed the Web, I did not have to ask anyone's permission."

Now I see it says timbl's blog. [Smile]

That's crazy- Al Gore made the internet (He's a cyborg from the future, you know).

$50 bucks says the first to lobby for content restrictions is the MPAA/RIAA.

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I have been following this with massive dismay.
I still do not fully understand what the Nanny's want, but the truth is, the internet is nothing more than this:

A full reflection of the the human race that populates it.
It is thought, desire, anger, greed. It is happy, sad and insane (and so much more).

There is no light without darkness.

To start looking at regulation, compartmentalising, blocking, raiding and destroying is akin to saying "Stop being human".

Ten years ago, when I first accessed the net, I was astnoished at what I could find and how easily it could be found.
What followed was a revolution, in both technology, software and human interaction.
And the key word there is Revolution.

I know a fair amount about the darker side of the net - some by choice, and other not by choice.
And one thing I know is this.
One man spoils 100,000 peoples fun, and all that is going to happen is they will find a way.
The technology will evolve, the software will evolve. As commercial and political takes control, another thing will grow in its place.

Enough said.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by StationMaster:
I have been following this with massive dismay.
I still do not fully understand what the Nanny's want, but the truth is, the internet is nothing more than this:

A full reflection of the the human race that populates it.

HA! I WIN! The human race is made of PORN.
My work here is done.

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WizArtist II
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Skynet/Porn has spoken.

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bX
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I'm a bit confused about what they are proposing and I suspect the confusion comes due to my fuzzy grasp of the underlying technology of the internet.

I am dimly aware that when I open a browser or check my mail, that little packets of data with headers (the IP addresses of sender and receiver and maybe some content data) get sent someplace by my computer with everyone elses packets and some super-sorters pass my data upstream in the direction of where the IP address is. And so currently there is no prioritizing of that data, and my packets, like everyone elses get passed in the order they are received.

Their nefarious plan as the people who own those big backbones or parts of those big backbones is to analyze each packet and, based upon the content of the packet, the sender, the receiver, etc, to give precedence to some while delaying or perhaps even omitting others. Such that if my data packet sent via my RinkyDink ISP, LLC gets passed into BigBackbone ISP Incorporated's network, my little data packet might sit there for a few cycles while their own customer's packets get shuffled. And maybe if the contents of my packet are objectionable that maybe that little packet just gets deleted and isn't passed along to anywhere. Is that the fear/the idea of what's going on? I really am asking, I clearly don't understand exactly what's at stake.

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Shik
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It's more than just that.

Let's say that BellSouth offers a package of "gold priority" to websites, that they will have better load times, fewer page errors, not as many problems with access. Let's say that, Oh, TrekBBS decides it's a good idea & signs on; conversely, poor jobless Charlie here can't afford the package & doesn't much like the potential for stratification it holds.

Now you're a BellSouth customer looking for a sci-fi board. You wander through a bunch & find that TrekBBS shows up loud & clear, like sitting next to a radio transmitter. You come to flare but it's slower, it lags, images don't load, bandwidth seems compressed than the other. Eventually, you just give up & never come here again. Fewer people show up & fianlly the website dies.

It's WCS to be sure, but imagine that same scenario for the small internet business as well as no-fee sites & you get the general stink of it.

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Nim
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quote:
To start looking at regulation, compartmentalising, blocking, raiding and destroying is akin to saying "Stop being human".
Earth! Hitler! 1938!
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Sol System
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This Scientific American piece is an OK summation, I think.
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Shik
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Why does Google have a "Chief Internet Evangelist"???

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Sol System
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1.) That's how they roll.

2.) "He is responsible for identifying new enabling technologies and applications on the Internet and other platforms for the company."

3.) Chief Internet Scryer would be neater.

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