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Jason Abbadon
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You guys watching this crazy shit today?
Seems up to 10 planes were targeted to be hijacked and blown up midair between Britan and the U.S.

It also appears that the explosives were to be brought aboard in carry-on luggage, were liquid based and were in bottles of "British Gatoraide" and were to be detonated via cell phone or IPod.

This just proves my long-standing position that anyone with an IPod should be inprisoned without trial or specific charges.

Lots of changes to carry-on luggage in effect now (though likeky temporary).

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B.J.
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I saw this on TV last night, and at the time they were saying 20 aircraft. Of course, I just found another source saying 6 planes. Whatever the details, this would have been a very bad day had they not been caught.

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Cartman
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"Lots of changes to carry-on luggage in effect now (though likeky temporary)."

Likely not, because they're far too convenient for airlines ("Oh, you want something to drink? Well, you'll just have to buy it from us!") and will keep getting milked for all their worth. Besides, with everybody gasping over how naughty and innovative these fuckos were by planning to use liquid explosives, it would just be irresponsible not to enforce them permanently, wouldn't it?

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Lee
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Heh. Apparently they just found one of the guys in custody's pre-recorded martyrdom tape. He'll never live it down. . .

But, yeah. My sister-in-law was flying out of the country this evening too - luckily, she made it OK; something to be said for living outside London I guess.

It's not something the airlines are going to complain about, no. People have been taking the piss with carry-on luggage for years (you should have seen, hell, tried to lift the stuff we brought back from Italy in our carry-on luggage - four litres of wine, spirits, cheese. . .). I'm not looking forward to Lula's next flight if she doesn't have her duck along with her. . .

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Jay the Obscure
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This is why the government should have hired a bunch of creative thinkers a long time ago. Someone would have come up with this scenario to bring down a plane.

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Actually, ten years ago, there was a plot almost exactly the same as this one.

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Jason Abbadon
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While bottles of stuff (water, soda, whatever) might remain banned, there's a lot of stuff that will have to (eventually) be allowed back on planes- medicinal supplies in cream form for starters (I cant travel anywhere without Zinc Oxide paste for example).

Airlines will have to alter their current lack of provisions now- many were in the process of eliminating beverages/foods completely to keep ticket costs down- and will have to at least provide water now.
Expensive, screened, FAA-approved water, but still...

Also, the cost of luggage will skyrocket: at my work, many people already ship their stuff back rather than get charged by the airlines.

Still...GO BRITAN! Seriously, someone deserves a medal or promotion over this: it sounds like the plot was known about for a while before the go-ahead to arrest the suspects was given.

Now as long as there's not some fucking Hezbollah connection to the terrorists, it's a big win all around. [Wink]

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Sol System
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It's a police operation. I am going to conservatively estimate that police in the UK make a gajillion arrests a year. I mean, I'm awfully glad no planes blew up, but are we really at the point where a lack of fiery death means something fantastically unusual has happened, as opposed to cops doing their (admittedly difficult and praiseworthy) job?

Considering how much trouble airlines have staying in business when they aren't being blown up, and how expensive fuel is likely to get, and how incredibly inconvenient it is going to be to make a plane truly secure, I wonder if commercial air travel for the masses will just go away.

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Jason Abbadon
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No...it wont "go away", but it will likely change some.
Elimination of seperate classes for starters as airlines maximize space for more passengers to offset costs.

As to police ops, it's a big win in that police are learning how to effectively deal with terror cells -british cops have (arguably) the most anti-terrorism experience in the world already and now seem to have adapted to the new threat.
It's not "fantastically unusual", just the start of what is hopefully a big trend in stopping nut jobs from killing innocents.

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Ritten
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Jason, I'd say the Brits are only topped by the Israelis.

Sol, I would say it varies on how difficult and praiseworthy a cops job is, depending on the area. The ones in a bigger town/city, yes, the ones in little burgs like mine, where the cops get board an usually pull people over for doing 47 or 48 in a 45 mph zone, no. It got so bad on tickets that the judge would say that anyone from my burg with a ticket for 4 or less dismissed, go see the clerk.

Of course, then they followed a burg councilman that had taken his sons car for a test drive after working on it and pissed him off, so they have calmed down a bit.

The airlines will downsize the aircraft they've got, fewer flights and/or smaller aircraft, as the common joe tourist won't be able to afford to fly any where.

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Sol System
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I didn't mean to imply, by the way, that every cop's job performance is praiseworthy, of course.
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AndrewR
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They'll have to really make sure bag-handlers can do their jobs now - no taking everything on board... You could end up in another country with absolutely NOTHING.

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AndrewR
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They also been saying you need to take your medication in the box with the sticker on it/take your prescription... what about over the counter medication that you need to take - are the airlines going to provide that!?! Airline-brand paracetamol??

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Sol System
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Well, first of all, have they? Britain has imposed one set of rules, the U.S. another, and I can't say that I've heard anything about the Australian reaction, if any.

But, in the U.S. . .

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