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So...somehow I missed the big moment. This happens whenever I take a few days off from the despair of world events to try and get into the holiday spirit.
Of course, this leaves no room for justice or an ongoing trial over the thousands murdered under his reign- the Kurd's suffering will probably get swept out of the public's eye in particular.
quote:Another guard spoke about anger and sadness in Sunni parts of Baghdad where Hussein, who was Sunni, was mourned. He said mock funerals were held in the staunchly Sunni Arab district of Ameriyah with people parading an empty coffin draped with an Iraqi flag. Black funeral banners were put up on the walls calling Saddam a "hero and a martyr," he said.
Seems some people still refuse to see reality...
Un-fucking-real, still...I'm suprised it happened so quickly after he was captured. If he's gone before the World Court, it'd be years more before a trial would even start.
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Da_bang80
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Yup, I'm kind of suprised no one commented on this before. So, is the world a better place yet?
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Who is that anyway? I seem to recall something... Wasn't he Saddam's vice-president or something?
A small fry- probably not worth capturing, surely.
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Amazing. Along with all the other fuck-ups in this war, they managed to get rid of Sasddam Hussein in a way that left people feeling sorry for him!
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What amazed me is that he was executed within hours of the US turning him over to the Iraqis. No waiting on death row for a decade for him!
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quote:Originally posted by B.J.: What amazed me is that he was executed within hours of the US turning him over to the Iraqis. No waiting on death row for a decade for him!
There was some real friction when the US did not turn him over to (whoever was in power that week) when Saddam was first captured. Iraq was afraid the US would take him back to stand trail/sentence in the states and the US was afraid the locals would either free him or tear him apart.
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As much as I agree that Saddam has done a lot of harm in his crimes, for some reason, the trials, sentencing, and execution have left a bad taste in my mouth.
I've had this discussion about this with several of my co-workers, despite the fact that they are glad that Saddam is gone and deserves to be punished for his crims, the consensus is that the whole process was flawed, giving the impression that the Iraqi court was being pressured by the US to push for conviction and execution. Some say that he did not get a fair trial that benefits most people in the North America. The whole process was nothing more than a circus to give them impression that "something is being done" when in fact, nothing has really been accomplished.
The fact that Saddam's execution was recorded on a cellphone didn't help matters either.
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Did you see Bush's whinge about the execution? I'll summerise:
"I wanted to kill him! And we'd have done a better job, and done it more humanley, and filmed it on our videophones, which have better resolution and sound capture. It's not fair."
But seriously, when people are feeling sorry for Saddam, somethings gone wrong. Was the execution rushed? Yes. Should it have been halted and postponed after it was realised that there were gloaters with cameraphones (why weren't they searched, as if we can't guess)? Yes.
All in all it seems a bit of a bungle, which is going to have zero effect on the terrorism and sectarianism. The only real answer is for the US government not stick their oar in where it is not wanted or needed (i.e. the Middle East as a whole). Rant over. I'm going to have some frosties.
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I actually agreed with Bush for the first time ever. His comments about the execution being undignified, but stressing that Saddam lorded over far worse deaths was a balanced assessment.
I don't agree with the death penalty, though in this case I can see how something good could have come out of Saddam's death, and if anyone deserved it he did. It's amazing that they managed to fuck it up so much though. It should have helped wipe the slate clean, but instead it's made things worse.
The camera phone vid wouldn't have been so much of a problem if the sound was cut out like in the official one. It's the taunts and berating as he's about to die that make it so bad.
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: If someone didn't record it on a camera phone - then it would have just created another 'urban legend' that he was still alive somewhere.
"THEY SAVED SADDAM'S BRAIN!!!" the 'ol "brain in a jar" gag, but Saddam's would be in a Skud missile.
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