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I firmly believe we can educate people to that point. I believe the evolutionary process of mankind is still continuing, and not as near end development as some people seem to think. Just because something is not done or will be for milleniums, why can't it happen?
Incidentally, it seems I'm the only one here who is giving any hope for the future. Come now my pessimistic friends, please enlighten me as to how we're going to end the world's problems. Afterall, isn't working towards a goal that is perhaps unattainable better than working towards no goal at all?
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Actually. I believe globalism is also inevitable, but I don't believe communism necessarily is, although I could be wrong. I also believe the path is going to get harder before it gets easier.
Our tendency to form strong loyalty bonds to our groups IS present throughout history and worldwide, from the earliest "my family" and "my tribe" days up to "my king," "my God," and "my nation" days. Although the groups seem to be growing larger, it's not without difficulty, as evidenced both by the problems within the European Community as well as certain "US out of UN!" rabid nationalists in the USA.
More and more people are discovering a loyalty to "Earth" or "Humanity," -- although very few of them are actually sure what that means. (and of course, should the Vulcans land, people are likely to have the same problem with THEM, should they identify TOO closely with Mankind.)
and... don't you know that there ARE rabid B5 vs Trek people out there? And people who are STILL ballistic against any series other than TOS (or TNG or DS9, depending on their personal taste?) Loonies.
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If you're gold colored, and worth .60 some american cents, and have the queen on your back then you're a loonie.
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Frank, you seem to view military, economic or racial (etc) conflict as one of the basis points of evolution. What if you were to consider the fact that the highest form of conflict is reasoning and or logic. Sure conflict is essential, but only if both parties are willing to move to the same end goals can any form of conflict bring about universal satisfaction. This being people using their brains and coming up with solutions, scientific, political or otherwise.
You're harping on about the 'group' mentality. Well of course we have it! We are by mature pack animals. That fuindamental part of our nature allowed us to come to global domination. However a more significant binding force - potentially- is the fact that we are all on this big blue ball together and like it or not we ARE the same species. All of us. If we were to have more compassion for individuals, instead of institutions things things can and will start to change.
I agree when DT says education is the key, though this workers revolution stuff is getting a bit thin... . We need evolution, the slow process of building, rather than revolution. The throw it in overnight and hope for the best system.
Possibly the most worrying part for me in all this is the trend towards thinking of the greater picture, in essence of the human race over each individual. That could be a fatal mistake. It will take a long time for our most primal instincts to be wiped out - or perhaps they will save us from ourselves *L*.
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I can't agree with socialism. It doesn't work. Its based on the erroneous believe that man can overcome his desire(for some groups, its a need though) to exploit others. This will always go on, whether we believe it will or not. Can people be educated enough to the point where this won't happen? I don't think so. Who would institute that education? If it was a socialistic society, where everyone recieved the same education, it would be more like brainwashing. There will always be dissent and people thinking differently(freedom of thought! that should be a guaranteed right). As long as people have the right to be different, then socialism will not work. Would you take away that right?
Besides, almost every case where socialism has been installed, it has just instituted another hierarchy, which it is supposed to be against. Its self-defeating.
Just so you know, DT, I am not attacking you, but the idea of Socialism. You have your right to believe what you want, and I respect that. But I won't stop myself from saying what I don't believe in :-).
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Education is the future. It is the responsibility of any government or regime to ensure the continuation of such a future.
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Jeff, you're showing your ignorance. Name to me one country where socialism was installed. You can't. It has NEVER happened. Moreover, you're presenting a conundrumic statement. Socialism CANNOT be installed in ONE country. Marx, Lenin, Engels, Trotsky, and pre-1923 Bukharin and Stalin all agreed on this. It is a fundemental tennent of socialism.
Moreover, you're too pessimistic. As the centuries go by, social mores change. We have little in common with Neanderthal man. In addition, your premise that man is inherently flawed is in and of itself inherintly flawed. That is based on the mythical belief developing out of Genesis.
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