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Shik
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I, of course, had firmly intended to vote the way I've voted in ALL elections, presidential or otherwise: I vote Meadow Party.

Alas, Bill & Opus have yet to find the financial backers to launch their campaign, & so I find that I'm forced to throw my support behind former Ambassador Duke. Like the man says, "Whatever it takes."

And Ben? Your campaign sounds a lot like a guy I knew in 95 & 96. Marcus refused to vote for Democrat Or Republican. His take was "Go Cthulu! Why choose the lesser of two evils?"

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Saltah'na
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Omega: Just a curious question.

"Endangered Species Act, et al"

You're really against this, huh? Why, and do you care about the environment and the animals?

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First of Two
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Hey! Jeff thinks putting a high-ranking military figure in charge of a country is a good idea!

Hey, it worked for the Cardassians and the Klingons...

Of course, it hasn't worked well for us since Washington, and hasn't worked at all for most other countries...

Think about any recent political leader with "General" in his title, and whether you'd want him running your country. How far back do you need to go? DeGaulle? I think even a lot of the French hated him...

Of course, this is overblown, but let's keep the civilian government and the military separate as much as we can, okay? Much as I like Colin Powell... no.

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Jay the Obscure
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Oh, the irony of repealing all those executive orders via an executive order...not to mention that all the rest of your agenda would require executive orders to implement.

Well, since we are going to repeal all those nasty EO's let's start with EO 13136 which extended the date of the President's Commission on the Celebration of Women in American History from March 1, 1999 to December 31, 2000.

Women ain't important nohow.

Or we could repeal EO 13151 which established a Global Disaster Information Network to "use information technology more effectively to reduce loss of life and property from natural and man-made disasters..."

The Federal POWER grab!!

One can read about the dastardly EO's on the Federal Register page.

And for a more complete list of gaffs (rather than post the very loooooong list) go to The Complete Bushisms

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Omega
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Tahna:

"You're really against this, huh? Why, and do you care about the environment and the animals?"

There's a book you should read. It's called "This Land was Your Land". Among other things, it explains all the things that are wrong with the endangered species act, including the fact that authorization for it expired in '92. For example, did you ever hear about the case of the Mexican duck? It was declared an endangered species, leading to all manner of trouble for private land holders. The thing is, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MEXICAN DUCK. Someone just wrote a little (and I mean about the size of a notecard) dissertation on how Mexican ducks were disappearing, submitted it, and the agency in charge of such things arbitrarily declared the non-existant species and endangered one. The agency (whose name escapes me, unfortunately; EPA? I know the Army Corps of Engineers can as well in the case of wetlands such as vernal pools, AKA mudpuddles.) can make arbitrary decisions which strip land owners of their property without compensation (blatantly unconstitutional), and they don't have to do any legitimate research! They just have to take other people's research, assuming it to be right. One guy just arbitrarily moved the border between two "distinct populations" of a certain avian species north some miles in an article he wrote so as to reduce the population of the northern type (both were the same species) enough to have it declared endangered, giving the national government an excuse to confiscate hundreds of acres of California beachfront property.

As for Buchanan and Schlessinger: I don't particularly like Buchanan, for the same reason I don't like the Reform party in general. He seems like the kind of person who would say "If you don't play my way, I'm gonna take my ball and go home." In fact, that's pretty much what he did. Schlessinger seems to have given good advice in the very few hours I've spent listening to her, but I find her unnesecarily abrasive and rude in many cases. I suppose that she MIGHT make a good negotiator, but that hardly qualifies her for a government post.

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Jay the Obscure
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Dern, I forgot about that Lincoln / Bush thing.

Are we really comparing the American education system from 1805 to the present university system to say that Bush is better somehow better or deserving of the office of president??

Lincoln scrounging up books to read vs. a frat boy who had everything handed to him.

Oh, that is grand.

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Omega
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"Oh, the irony of repealing all those executive orders via an executive order"

The irony is the idea.

"not to mention that all the rest of your agenda would require executive orders to implement."

And exactly why's that? I said that I'd take things to the supreme court and congress. That doesn't require any executive orders. Unless you were refering to the creation of my constitutional foundation, in which case I was planning to do it with private funds.

"The Federal POWER grab!!"


Some people just don't get it. The point is that it's power grab by the _executive branch_. I have no serious objection to these programs, but the president does not and should not have the authority to create them without going through congress, as in the case of an executive order. This is not a dictatorship, or at least it's not supposed to be.

First:

"Hey! Jeff thinks putting a high-ranking military figure in charge of a country is a good idea!"

Well, since putting someone in charge of the country MAKES them a high-ranking military official...

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Xentrick
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A fratboy who had everything handed to him? Uh, you�re not actually buying that �farmer Al� act, are you? Al�s as much a farmer as George W is a Texas cowboy, another joke.

Al�s Dad, Al Sr, was a poor Senator first elected to Congress in 1932. But by the time he was elected to the Senate in 1952, he had become rich enough to live in a plush hotel on Washington�s embassy row and send Al Jr. to the expensive St. Albans School in Washington.
Young Al went to Harvard, not Hayseed U. in Tennessee.
When Gore Sr. was defeated for reelection in 1970, Armand Hammer made him president of Occidental�s coal division, paying him $500,000 a year. Al Jr. would have been 22-23 at the time. When dad died, Al inherited a good chunk of Occidental Petroleum stock---bit of an embarrassment, since OP had links to Love Canal and is currently embroiled in a situation with natives in Columbia.

further reading about Al http://www.gargaro.com/algore.html
and http://www.gorefreetennessee.com/NewGoreFree/isms.htm


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Through some extremely bizarre quirk of fate, I got a perfect score on the verbal portion of my SAT. Vote for me.

Simon in '00: He Doesn't Suck

Or, if you prefer...

Simon 2000: He's gonna be your Frankenstein

As for presidents, I think I'm going to vote for Lore. No, not that Lore.

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First of Two
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Schlessenger hates the First Amendment, when its used by people who don't agree with her. She attacks organizations that promote free speech and inquiry for all people, such as the ALA, as sick people who want to give kids unfettered access to porn. (As if we were FORCING kids to sit down and click on it, and FORCING parents to take a back seat to our oh-so-evil plans, rather than encouraging parents to take responsibility THEMSELVES for what their child surfs to, but not interfere with the rights of other parents and children, and not use the Internet as a high-tech babysitter.)

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Aethelwer
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What is it with all these perfect scores on the SAT verbal section? One of my friends got the same thing. If the SAT were in Magyar, I'd do better than the lot of you! Er, um.

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I took the SAT once, while recovering from the flu.
Math :620
Verbal :700

As dictator, I will order a review of current laws, executive orders, and other governmental edicts, with a careful eye to just where juch laws have gone wrong, and revise, amend, or strike them as I deem fit.

I don't know if the state of emergency will really be over when I'm dictator, as I consider it an emergency that we're being undermined from within.

I will uphold the Bill of Rights, more especially the First Amendment, in the spirit in which the authors intended, having gleaned their intents from studying their own writings. This will probably make me equally unpopular with both ends of the political spectrum, as the Right will have to give up school prayer and the left will have to give up many of the 20,000 gun control laws.

I will personally deal with any attacks on my history, character, or family past with unvarnished honesty, even when it makes me look bad. I will make the 'straight talk express' look like an Apologist's convention.

I will not spend, not will I permit the congress to authorize, $50,000 for a study of lap-dancing in Miami. If they want to get their rocks off, let them pay for it themselves.

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Omega
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I think there may be some confusion as to the definition of school prayer. I certainly hope that you don't mean that students would not be allowed to pray in school as they please. "Congress shall make no law... prohibiting the free exercize [of religion]". Prayer certainly falls under the free excercize of religion.

"I don't know if the state of emergency will really be over when I'm dictator, as I consider it an emergency that we're being undermined from within."

But a state of emergency can only be declared in the event of invasion or rebellion. Of course, that would make our current state of emergency illegitimate, since there was neither at the time it was declared, so I could in theory have every single executive order since '33 thrown out on those grounds.

You really oughta get ICQ, First. We could have some interesting discussions.

I just took my first SAT a week or two ago. Have to wait 'til next Saturday to get the results.

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First of Two
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" I think there may be some confusion as to the definition of school prayer. I certainly hope that you don't mean that students would not be allowed to pray in school as they please."

As long as they do it quietly, without interrupting any part of your regularly scheduled school day, I don't have a problem with it. I don't care if you say your own silent grace over your food at lunchtime, either. But when people interrupt class, leave, or attempt to require a 'prayer/meditation/quiet' time, I find that objectionable. There are plenty of places to take 'time out' to pray, specifically, the roughly 18 hours of the day you are NOT in school, weekends, home, church, etc. etc.

As for the state of emergency. If those are indeed the qualifications, I would agree that the State of Emergency was illegitimate.

(Of course, it's also my opinion that the government of the country HAS been invaded... by the stupid, the greedy, and the inane.)

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Sol System
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But what do we do about forms of prayer that are inherintly disruptive, in that they cannot be done quietly to yourself?

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Really deep. We won't blink
Your eyes are burning holes through me.
I'm not scared I'm outta here.
I'm not scared. I'm outta here.
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