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I went here just in case someone gets pissed off or something. Do I know?
Ok, let's see here. Yes, I was thinking about people that have been canonized, generally for being very nice to many others for a long time, like S:t Helena, Jeanne D'Arc and soforth.
Then I remembered another tale that I've never gotten any new info about, namely that of S:t George And The Dragon. I don't pretend to know anything about classifications of saints, but as canonizations go I've heard it can take generations for the Vatican to make up their collective mind about a bloke, so nothing can go wrong, no embarrasing news (Aahh, he WAS gay!!! *stroke*).
So, how could they have overlooked a guy that claimed he had killed a 20-foot dragon, hmm? I'd really like to know how he got off with that ol' kneeslapper.
I'd also like to know about the story itself, George and the Dragon. I've only heard "he killed a dragon". How? Where? Why? To avenge whom?
Please help me understand S:t George.
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George was a Christian martyr who died early in the history of the church. There isn't really any historical information about him, other then that.
Now, Saint George went on to star in some increasingly bombastic tales, including one where he was helping the Franks fight in the Crusades, and of course the slaying of the dragon. He's the patron saint of England, and apparently specifically England. He was also the patron saint of some other states, like Genoa and Venice.
Apparently he fell out of favor after the formation of the Anglican Church, and now only gets a minor holiday. A quick search reveals that his name lives on in a number of rugby teams, however, which may or may not make up for it.
As to why he killed a dragon...well, what else are brave young knights supposed to do?
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Believe me, the dragons are none too pleased with the concept.
Anyways, they canonized that creep Cyril of Alexandria (he was they guy who incited his follwoers to riot, murder Hypatia, and burn the Library of Alexandria), too. They even canonized guys who hated and persecuted each other, on occasion. (Cyril of Alexandria deposed a man who is not Saint John Chrysostom, etc.)
Loonies.
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Interesting. So AFTER George had been canonized people started conjuring up stories involving him and a dragon?
But how could this apocrypha rise to legendhood? We have two grand statues of him here in Stockholm (and one hospital). I still don't understand...
But as you say, First, it seems the canonizER's judgement has been subject to arbitrary decisions on more than one occasion. Well I still feel there's more to this than meets my brain...
My God, Man! I may have to...*psychoviolins* VISIT A LIBRARY!! *thunder* Heeeelp!!!
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Oh, that's a different way, yes. We use it in Sweden, but I think some other countries are involved as well.
So they Junion Jack is composed of St George? Well put me in a dress an' call me Susie!
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Besides, I don't think the Welsh particularly want to be included on the Union Jack. At least, the Welsh I spoke with during my last visit felt that way. Give Wales time and they'll go the same way that Scotland seems to be going, taking back what the limeys stole - their nationhood.
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PsyLiam said Wales have a dragon as their symbol. I think we're on to something here...
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The red cross on white is St. George's cross, representing England. The white 'X' on blue is St. Andrew's cross, for Scotland. The red 'X' on white, I believe is St. Patrick's cross, for (Northern) Ireland. Now you know the secret of the Union Jack. Feel proud...
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Yeah, give it enough time, and the Welsh will be completly seperate. As will Scotland. And Ireland will be one country again. This is what everyone wants. And it will happen soon.
And shortly after, England will become the 52nd US state.
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No, next in line for the 52nd, 53rd, 54th, and 55th US states are New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, PEI, and Newfoundland when Qu�b�c finally separates...
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