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Funny, I know a fair amount of people who make below 40k who'll have a hell of a time with taxes as it is, and it appears Bush will only give those above that any break. Figures, kickbacks to the rich(er) as always. I hate his ideas on how to "fix" education too like this voucher thing or lowering standards. He seems to want to lower standards on a lot of things doesn't he?
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Funny, I know a fair amount of people who make below 40k who'll have a hell of a time with taxes as it is, and it appears Bush will only give those above that any break.
Pardon? As I recall, under the Bush plan, no one under $35k even PAYS income tax. Again, what do you want? A negative tax?
I hate his ideas on how to "fix" education too like this voucher thing or lowering standards.
Again, pardon? Lowering standards? THERE ARE NO STANDARDS. That's the frikin' problem! He's creating them, not lowering them!
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While there are no Federally-mandated standards, there are State-standards. I don't know for certain, but it's possible (quite possible) that TSN means that Dubya's plan would set a lower standard than some states require is all.
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Aren't the states able, in cases such as this, to create higher standards than what the Feds say to do, the Feds would set a minimum standard. States just under cut Fed standards.
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quote:Personally, I find it encouraging that the CEO of the country has experience running an actual business
You mean that failed oil venture? Yeah, that gives me pains of excitement too about his ability.
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I meant that they may pay the money out, but they get it back. Maybe not more, but the rich tend to support the rich, and Dubya's rich. So while those above one tax bracket pay less, those below it pay more for doing more unlike the other side.
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I meant that they may pay the money out, but they get it back.
Oh, now you're falling for the DNP line. No one is "getting money back" with a tax cut. That's like spending money on a tax cut. It isn't possible, by definition. Regardless, the rich will STILL be paying far more than the poor after the Bush tax cut, so again... what's your problem?
the rich tend to support the rich
Again, falling for the DNP line. Class warfare, and the like. The rich don't support each other. A rich person supports himself and his family, and the way he does that is by investing money in companies, and thus creating jobs, which I think we all agree is a good thing.
So while those above one tax bracket pay less, those below it pay more for doing more unlike the other side.
Can you please repeat that? In english, preferably.
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Anyone below a certain tax line usually gets screwed on any new "tax deals" that only end up benefiting those who have the money.
If you've never lived middle or lower class, then don't pretend to think that the tax laws are fair to anyone. 2,000 may not seem like much to you, but to my parents who won't have it, that's $2,000 they'll have to find somewhere thanks to this shit.
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Ah, it's the old virtue of selfishness and other lines of conservative bullshit.
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Um. Er. Oooops, I meant TLE. Sorry ... you guys with three-lettered names starting with "T" get confusing sometimes
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2,000 may not seem like much to you, but to my parents who won't have it, that's $2,000 they'll have to find somewhere thanks to this shit.
WTF? They're getting a frikin' TAX CUT! Unless they somehow avoid paying income tax, your parents will have MORE money to play with after the Bush tax cut.
Anyone below a certain tax line usually gets screwed on any new "tax deals" that only end up benefiting those who have the money.
I'd love to hear your explaination for that statement. How can you get screwed if you end up paying no taxes at all?
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Bush's tax plan is supposed to give tax cuts to certain people, making a certain income, with a certain number of kids. Unfortunately, tax cuts will be primarily given to those who make $60,000 or over. There is ONE tax bracket that I'm aware of that covers people with incomes LOWER than $60,000. That bracket is single people with one child making $30,000
Another problem with Bush's tax plan is that it relies HEAVILY on the accuracy of the budget surplus projections. If the budget surplus projections are a tiny bit off, we'd be screwed!!! Besides, even if the projections are dead on, Bush's tax plan would eat up so much of the surplus, there wouldn't be enough left over to cover increases in the cost of running the country!!!
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