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Saltah'na
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There is a great debate among Chinese Canadians living in Toronto on who should get the Olympics. The official decision on the Olympics is supposed to be made on July 13. Beijing is said to be the Front-Runner, whereas Toronto is a distant second. (Paris is the other significant competitor, running third).

Here are some of the facts gleaned from various newspaper sources.

Beijing

Why they would get the Olympics (not should, mind you).
- China has never had the Olympics. They lost by a mere two votes for the Sydney Olympics, and so far, it appears that lightning won't strike twice.
- People are suggesting that the Olympics would either promote human rights, or expose the Chinese Government's human rights record (also known as Backfiring), thus precipitating a big embarassment and repercussions to come.
- Beijing's plan for the Olympics is more solid than Toronto's. With actual Hard Cash to back it up.
- An intensive plan to clean up the environment.
- It has lots of support from World Figures. More than you think.

Why they would not get the Olympics.
- Tienammen Square.
- Tibet.
- Falun Gong.
- Human Rights Record. Nuff said.
- With lots of pollution in Beijing, cleaning up will be a Herculean task.

Toronto

Why they would get the Olympics.
- A very sound Olympic Plan. Just as good as Beijing. (but with a big if)
- Commitment from all three levels from government, including some Private Sector sources. (but with a big if)
- Commitment to clean up the Port Lands and turn them into an Olympic Bonanza. (also with a big if)
- Multicultural city, perfect setting for a multicultural Olympics.
- Unfortunately for China, the people who oppose Beijing's bid for the Olympics live here.
- Human Rights. Nuff Said.
- Like Beijing, Toronto lost the '96 Olympics to Atlanta by a narrow margin. Someone's gonna get hit by Lightning twice.
- More World Class than Beijing.
- Currently trying to shore up its environmental image.

Why they would not get the Olympics.
- The Only Canadian Representative on the IOC wants to vote for Beijing.
- The "BIG IF": Money will only come if AND ONLY IF Toronto wins. If no go, no dough. (The IOC would really like it if the plans for the Port Lands proceed, with or without the Olympics.) And even if they do win, money does not appear "guaranteed", given the provincial government's broken promises on investment projects.
- Mayor Lastman really screwed things up on a trip to Kenya thinking that he would be in a pot of water with all those dancing indians around him, an obvious racial slur. He has apologized about 200 times since, but as they say "Loose Lips Sink Ships", and perhaps the Olympics.
- Premier Mike Harris (neo-conservative right-wing politician). Is only interested in taking money that Toronto earns, not reinvesting it. To him, the Olympics means a pot of gold, not international glory. He is even considering cutting on his intended share, and letting the city and the Federal government pick up the rest.
- Montreal had the Olympics in 1976 and made such a mess out of it that Taxpayers are still paying its bills today. That's right, it created a great big money-swallowing pit. And most don't want the same thing to happen to Toronto.
- Canada has hosted the Olympics twice, in Montreal in 1976, and Calgary in Winter, 1988.

So who will win? Place your bets, people.

[ July 10, 2001: Message edited by: Tahna Los ]



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My guess is Beijing. I just have a feeling that they are gonna get the 2008 summer olympics.
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Toronto should. Beijing will.

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Saltah'na
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Yes, Unfortunately.

All signs are pointing towards that possibility.

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Why do you say unfortunatly?
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Because the Chinese are evil cocksuckers bent on world domination and should be nuked like the cockroaches they are.

Or ...

Because Tahna lives near Toronto? (That last bit is a guess...)

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Saltah'na
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I live in Toronto.

As for China, their human rights record doesn't speak too well for them. The Olympics should go to a place that welcomes, as well as respects the world.

When it comes to Tianammen Square, Falun Gong, and Tibet, China provides no such respect whatsoever.

But the awarding of the Olympics is more about politics than anything else. I myself wouldn't be surprised if Beijing gets the Olympics.

Let's hope all this blows up in their faces.

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I hope you mean figuratively.

Coz I don't think Canadians make quality terrorists.

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Actually, we are. We make great artery-clogging-super-fattening bacon and cheese.

All in an effort to incapacitate the Americans with the dubious "Heart Attack".

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So you guys are the bastards behind McD's.

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And all those popular Canadian bacon sandwhiches!!!
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Damn Beijing Fucks!!!
Toronto should get the olympics!!!!!!
Why you ask????
Because my mom works for the biggest construction company and that means big bonus and lots of cool shite for me, and perhaps even a really nice car

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I thought the whole point of the Olympics was to bypass political considerations. Everywhere that's had the Olympics has had some sort of questionable background. Sydney? Bunch of bloody convicts. Atlanta? Rednecks, don't let any of the athletes from Africa pop out for a walk round the block if at all possible. Barcelona? Basques. Seoul? Students. Los Angeles? Los Angeles. . .

You get the idea. All the way back, past Moscow, via Hitler's Berlin in 1936.

And besides, these days the Olympics are all about sponsorship. Which market is more valuable, Canada or China? Do you think Nike are gonna care about human rights in China? Hell, they're fucking dependent on Chinese slave labour to make their products.

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No, the only problem with Atlanta was how the locals were treated during it. The homeless people were whisked away.
The good things that happened is that the cops got to get a good look at a lot of the criminals, thinking the cops weren't paying attention to what they were during while making drug deals on the streets. At one of my guard posts I was teamed up with a Atlanta PD officer that was part of the drug raid team, we were in a seedy section and he was watching them and making his notes....

A bonus for China is the size of the security force that they can have..... 1,200,000,000 people would keep nap-sacks with bombs in them from laying around.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Ritten:
A bonus for China is the size of the security force that they can have..... 1,200,000,000 people would keep nap-sacks with bombs in them from laying around.....

Or go around planting bombs to further their own cause.

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Jen- You again??!?! Listen kid, I'm not interested in you. Stop bothering me, I'm a lot older than you and I have a boyfriend. How did you find my ICQ number anyways?
Me- Oh, so just cuz you're a movie star now, and you're new album made millions, you think you're too good for me?
Jen- Yes!!! Get it thorough your head! I am a person, I am not Jennifer Lopez the hottest woman on earth that everyone wants to sleep with, I'm a person, leave me alone!!!
Me- Fine! Be that way!
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