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You probably right. I say it's time to revolt against the government. You know. Storm the capitol building and throw our current leaders in the gutter and assume control. While we're at it we can storm the pentagon and Area 51 to find out what the hell the government has got going on in those places!
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Last I heard, Area 51 was all but shut down...
I'm not sure I get what this article is about. There was never even the slightest hint at why the water was shut off in the first place. Just from reading this, you'd think the government said "Hm... How can we screw people over today? Oh, I know! Turn off some random irrigation water!"
"Two or three of their number were women who were standing there with the farmers in complete support."
Um... Since when can't women be farmers?
"As they approached, the farmers and their supporters gathered together in front of the entrance and ... began singing hymns to the US Marshals! The marshals were completely taken aback. They stopped cold as though running into a barrier and backed up to their car."
It's like a saying I once heard: "If you can't dazzle them w/ brilliance, baffle them w/ bullshit.".
"A local gospel group sang, the Pledge of Allegiance was said and the national anthem was sung by all. The Federal Officers did not stand at attention, salute or even stand still while this was going on. Many in attendance were surprised as they expected them to show at least some respect."
Oh, please... So, if the police ever try to arrest me, I should pull out a miniature US flag and play a recording of "The Star-Spangled Banner"? Then they'll have to stop and salute, and I can get away?
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The water was apparently shut off to protect some form of endangered fish, according to Sol. Depending on the length of the shutoff time, the government may or may not have been taking the correct action.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: Last I heard, Area 51 was all but shut down...
No. That report was a mistake made by a reporter with Popular Mechanics who was too dumb to notice that he was checking out a place called section 52 or something like that instead of Area 51.
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Any news source that bills itself first and foremost as for "Real Americans" strikes me as about as likely to perform unbiased hard-hitting investigative journalism as NiftySource.
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"The Endangered Species Act is an unconstitutional encumbrance on the lives of local citizens all over this nation which interferes with their God-given rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. "
"We, therefore, appealing to the Supreme Creator for His assistance, do petition and demand that officials of local, state and national government: .. .... Immediately cut off funding for the Endangered Species Act by the Congress of the United States."
I do hope people read that petition before they consider signing it. It's not that I'm unsympathetic towards those people, but there's no way I'd agree with anyone trying to get rid of the Endangered Species Act.
Surely the government made some kind of contact with those people before turning off the irrigation system. Does anyone know if there were any offers of compensation etc made?
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Da_bang80
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I heard Area-51 was Re-located to some other location. not far from the original site.
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Any how would turning OFF the water help a fish? don't they need WATER to survive? unless it's a lung-fish or lobe-finned fish.
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The only reason I could find where shutting off water to save a fish would be prudent is if the extra water were having an adverse effect on the existing water. If the irrigation water is contaminated with pesticides or other stuff used in the farming industry to promote crop growth and bug death, those chemicals could flow into the areas of the endangered fish. Another possibility is that the water the fish is living is at a particular pH level. From having had way too damn aquariums in the past, I know that the pH level is an important aspect of maintaining a proper living environment. Adding extra water from irrigation runoff would have a diluting effect, probably more so than just your typical annual rainfall.
These are just my opinions based on high school science classes, of course. Your mileage may vary.
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Christ, I hate that whiny, petulant "the Govenrment's sending us all to bed without any supper and it's not FAIR" tone these losers always come up with. You gotta have a pretty fucked-up sense of self-esteem to be one of these assholes. Their reasoning usually goes:
1. The government is doing something "bad." 2. The people chose the government. 3. The people were therefore wrong. 4. I know they're wrong, therefore I'm right. 5. Therefore I am wonderful.
Then you have the more advanced cases who think it's all a great conspiracy and the people are dupes who have no say in their own destiny. More to the point, the people don't listen to these more-enlightened souls (because what they're actually saying is bullshit and plain to anyone with a well-adjusted sense of reality) so they become even less important in the scheme of things.
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I had assumed that the irrigation water was coming from Lake Kalmath, that the endangered fish inhabited Lake Kalmath, and that taking water from the lake was having a disruptive effect. Perhaps Siegfried's explanation is more correct.
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The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.
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