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Omega
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Yes.

Tell me: if the amount that a health-care provider is sued for is so high as to drive the HMO out of business, then what happens? Well, first, the insurance companies go down, due to the overabundance of claims. Second, the HMOs go down, because they don't have insurance. Third, the government "reluctantly" is "forced" to take over medicare for the entirity of the country, ala Hillary Clinton, thus outright destroying a massive portion of our economy. They'd probably take over insurance, to boot. We lose our freedom, and our independance of the government.

I'd call that price too high, wouldn't you?

[ August 02, 2001: Message edited by: Omega ]



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First of Two
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Sure! Wanna know what your life is worth?

http://www.humanforsale.com/

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Malnurtured Snay
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quote:
It's also very "big government" to force healthcare prices up,

Which means that it's also very big-government to tell people who to sue and for how much.

Ladies and gentlemen: take note. By his own definition, a liberal is someone who favors "bigger government." So, by his own admission, Omega has just admitted to being a liberal ...

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Omega
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Ah, but if you'll notice, I said that my prefered solution was to axe medicare all togethter. That was just my secondary solution.

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quote:
Third, the government "reluctantly" is "forced" to take over medicare for the entirity of the country, ala Hillary Clinton, thus outright destroying a massive portion of our economy. They'd probably take over insurance, to boot. We lose our freedom, and our independance of the government.

As someone whose dinner is put on the table by the Canadian medical system, I must take issue with the gaping splotch of negative intelligence present in this comment.

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First of Two
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Okay, you've taken issue with it.

Now, for the hard part.

Why?

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I don't know about human suffering, but human feet seem pretty cheap.
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First of Two
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quote:
`This is not a patient bill of rights. This is an HMO and health insurance companies' bill of rights,' said House Democratic Leader Dick Gephardt. His voice rising and his face growing red, he added, `In the name of God ... vote against this bill.'

Sounds like Mr. Gephardt needs to relax a bit.


Apparently, the current compromise being pushed for is largely due to Georgia Rep. Charles Norwood, a leading Republican supporter of patients' rights legislation who had long aligned himself with Democrats on the issue.

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Republicans heaped praise on Norwood -- and defended him from criticism by Democrats who had worked closely with him for years.

Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., reading Democrats' earlier glowing statements of praise for Norwood, added sarcastically, `That's yesterday. Today they'll have you think he's become Dr. Kevorkian,' the suicide doctor.


That sounds about right.

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I love how First of Two doesn't even discuss the merits of either side's arguements, he just resorts to the same mud-slinging he's criticizing the Dem's about. Good work boyo.

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First of Two
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Hey, FLAME-board, remember?

Anyway, I already discussed the merits, or at least, what I see as being wrong with the idea.

This must have been while you had your fingers in your ears and were shouting " Is not isnotisnot! Omega sucks!"

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Just pointing something out is all.

And I don't remember every saying that. Hmm. Maybe I should sue for slander or something.

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