Saltah'na
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targetemployee: Don't forget, Nixon was only a Conservative-in-Disguise. Didn't you know that Nixon was actually a LIBERAL?
So True it is.
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Based on his announcement, Jeff, I'd say a pseudo-liberal.
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Interestingly enough, I think Bush made the same call most of us would have.
Yes, we can do fetal stem cell research on already-being-discarded embryos, (say, from the 'extras' made during attempts at in-vitro fertilization) but no, we cannot create new embryos specifically for that purpose.
It's a choice that totally satisfies no one, but also leaves the largest portion of both groups with some gain. (And besides, that's just Federal money. There's still state and private money that can go for whatever they choose).
And that's leadership.
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Actually, First, I'll agree with you and say that Bush made the right call when it comes to the research question. We have to walk a fine line between science and the ethical questions and Bush, for once, did a reasonable good job of bumbling down the middle ground.
What is worth noting is the fact that he lied to the religious right when he said he'd oppose any and all stem cell experimentation during the campaign. I wonder if he'd made it clear that the stand he made the other day was his position on the matter back then how many votes in Florida from the fundies would have gone to Buchanan instead? Perhaps more than 500?
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Every candidate lies during campaigning (anyone remember "Read my lips: no new taxes"?). It's called, oddly enough, campaigning.
The difference is, when a Republican does it, it's "good leadership", but when a Democrat does it (or John McCain, for that matter), s/he's a "lying scum-sucking God-hating liberal."
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At least he said he WAS breaking that promise, and he said why he felt the need to break that particular promise, which is more than we generally get from the other guys.
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Saltah'na
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So do the other politicians. It's just that no matter what a non-conservative politician does to explain the reasons why, no matter how good the reason is, he/she is still branded as a "lying scum-sucking God-hating liberal."
And First, I find the quote in your new sig somewhat..... insulting.
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Since it's the only defense of continuing to try Socialism (after its failures every place its been tried so far) I ever hear, it sounds just fine to me.
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Socialism has failed every place it's been tried so far? Eh?
I guess the same could be said about unregulatated capitalism.
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It's a good thing that this guy in question visited Cuba before coming up with such a groundbreaking and well-researched conclusion.
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I guess the same could be said about unregulatated capitalism.
That's funny. We did quite well until the era of big government started during the Great Depression. And the Depression, surprise, surprise, was brought on by government overregulation.
It's a good thing that this guy in question visited Cuba before coming up with such a groundbreaking and well-researched conclusion.
What, you think Cuban socialism works? That it's good for the people of Cuba?
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quote:That's funny. We did quite well until the era of big government started during the Great Depression. And the Depression, surprise, surprise, was brought on by government overregulation.
LOL! LOL!
pardon me...
LOL! LOL! LOL!
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I hate politics. whenever i watch the US news channels, i turn the channel when they talk about politics. i aslo turn the channel when they start talking about something that happend a month or two ago. IE, Chandra Levy and the kid who got bit by a shark,
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I'm with Jay on laughing my ass off at that especially stupid comment on the depression.
quote:What, you think Cuban socialism works? That it's good for the people of Cuba?
Oh, don't get me wrong, the totalitarian end of things in Cuba isn't my cup of tea (although to be fair to Castro things there are probably no worse than most of the states of the former Soviet Union and the bulk of democracies in the devloping world).
But take, say, Mexico, and cut off all trade with the US, and you'd have an abysmal hole-in-the-wall of a nation with endemic disease, poverty, war yadda yadda. And yet Cuba, which has spent the last forty years in essentially the same situation, has the healthiest, most literate, and least poverty and crime-stricken people in Latin America.
So, yeah, the freedom thing's a bitch, but I'd say that as far as your run-of-the-mill Cuban is concerned, they're quite happy with their socialist economy.
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