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And, hell, even the causes are different. I'd argue that there are slightly more legitimate uses for a camera than a gun, and the pro-gun peoples main argument is that they use a gun to prevent crime, which doesn't really cross.

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if you saw the FBI crime statistics (and keep in mind that the FBI is generally against civilians owning firearms of any kind) you would see that crime goes down when states have concealed carry permit laws that include mandatory training. of course, you've been brainwashed by a socialist government (and everyone knows that socialist governments are scared to the common man have a firearm) so you don't know this, and i guess you just swallow the crud that is fed to you. where is Winston Churchill when you need him? there aren't any rugged individualists in power anymore. not trying to get into an argument with you, PsyLiam (despite this being the flameboard) but you don't know what you are talking about.

AAANNNNYYYYWAAAAYYY, i thought the joke was pretty funny, but not as funny as this:

Sony Music Lobbies for Ban on Markers
By Brian Briggs

Washington DC - Ralph Hughes of Sony Music testified in the Senate today urging lawmakers to enact legislation which would ban felt tip markers. "These innocuous looking writing instruments are the scourge of our society," he said holding up a Sharpie. "Not only can this black stick of death be used to violate the DMCA, but it could also be used to write the instructions to incubate the anthrax virus."

Hughes did concede that a marker had some legitimate uses, but he cited several examples of dangerous and illegal use of the markers which "clearly overshadow any justifiable purposes."

Man escapes prison with felt-tip marker by drawing a fake mustache on himself and fooling guards.
Snorting felt tip markers leading cause of death among teens who die snorting felt tip markers.
A terrorist could sketch a knife on Post-it note and hijack the plane with the picture.
A baby with a marker once ruined a perfectly good sweater.

In response to the Senator Fritz Hollings
introduced the Hollings' Felt Tip Marker Family Safety Act. "Never have the dangers been so clear and the solution been so evident. This legislation will protect the children of our country in the wake of September 11th and the release of Celine Dion's "A New Day has Come" CD.

"Some citizens may have to switch to pencils or ball point pens," Hollings continued, "but that's a small price to pay for the security of our great nation."

Many pundits were surprised by the Hollings bill. "Normally Senator Hollings only introduces legislation when it's in support of Disney. This support of the Sony Corporation is a welcome change and shows the bi-partisanship of the Senator."

Tom Stephens of the Sanford marker company testified in support of markers, "I spent all last night trying to think of a proposal that was more ridiculous, but I kept drawing a blank."

that was from www.bbspot.com, btw.

--jacob

[ May 22, 2002, 19:14: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]