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Malnurtured Snay
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This is what I'm wondering ...

Voyager starts out with 170 or so officers and crew. SEVEN years ago. Do you really think we should still be seeing this many faces onboard? How many crew has she lost? You'd think it'd be down to the senior staff and no one else by now.

I dunno.

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Sol System
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Losing a handful of people each season hardly adds up to losing the whole crew, or even a sizable majority.

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Michael Dracon
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In recent episodes the number 150 is mentioned several times. But I can remember numbers like 145 and 140 being mentioned...

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The new ST Magazine does a Voyager crew count that seems to be fairly accurate. IIRC, it's at about 145? I forget what I read... I'll try and post it later. But remember, they picked up people occasionally, too. 2 as soon as they arrived, some bunch more when the Maquis signed up, 5 or so from Ransom's ship, Seven of Nine.

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And Naomi!

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Malnurtured Snay
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"The 37s" was repeated today, and the crew is given at 152 (I guess some may already have died)

Something puzzling, though ... Chakotay and Janeway are talking about how many people it takes to staff the ship. If the crew is 152, then it takes 50 people to crew Voyager at any one time. You figure three shifts, everbody works 8 hours and has 16 hours off (and no days off).

They say if half the crew leaves, they won't be able to staff the ship. That would give them 75 some-odd people ... I think it would be enough to run the ship. Ok, people would be doing double shifts and the such, but its doable. My friend is in the Marines and came back from Kosovo a year ago or so. He was aboard a ship crewed by the Navy and carrying Marines, and their equipment, vehicles, etcetra. The Navy ship has a crew of 300 and was DESPERATELY understaffed, officers and crew were routinely pulling double shifts.

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We've seen Voyager run by as few as two people before. Or even one if you count the last few seconds of "Year of Hell". But I think that they are purposely cautious in such estimates. For a ship in normal conditions, you should only need enough crew to run it and make minor repairs. Voyager requires, as a minimum, enough crew to make major repairs, because who else is going to do it?

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Nim
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Does "skeleton crew" mean the minimum amount of crew WITHOUT double-shifts and automated systems, or is it the most extreme of cut-downs, with as many systems as possible running on "auto", and about twenty people doing fifty people's work?
Read: Is "skeleton crew"-mode a sustainable state, given that it's planned and decided (not thrusted upon someone, like in "Equinox") ?

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I don't think there's a technical definition for "skeleton crew". I think it just means you're running w/ about as few people as you can.

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