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We *finally* get some vague idea of where Voyager is in relation to the Beta Quadrant!
Yes, when the Doctor (posing as Janeway) describes the false alien culture's borders he states it goes on for "thousands of parsecs" nearly to the Beta Quadrant border. As I said, its vague, but at least its something!
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"Hokey smokes." Don't they show classic television on Nick any more?
Of course, they should be considerably closer to the BQ. At least 2000 parsecs, minus however far they'd traveled into the aliens' space, works out to at least 6700 LY. Too far. But at least they DID say Beta Quadrant, instead of Alpha.
These would seem to be very silly aliens. Instead of destroying every ship that comes through with conventional warp drives, why not just GIVE them the non-damaging drives, or at least a variant thereof? Otherwise, they'd have lots of unwanted settlers. Of course, they were fictional, created by that silly race that seems to have space NEARLY as large as the fictional race in question. What were they called, again?
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Nah, Rocky and Bullwinkle are on Cartoon Network now, in a rather late timeslot. Which is why I haven't seen it in a while. Which is why I got the quote wrong.
Well, I shall be doing a major overhaul of my equations and computations in the very near future. Perhaps I can find a way to make that statement fit. Perhaps.
------------------ "The Long Kiss Goodnight begins, more or less, with Geena Davis being kicked in the head by a deer. This was the high point of the film."
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You'd think that if those aliens were real, Janeway would have been able to negotiate an agreement having one of their undamaging warp ships TOW Voyager from one end of their space to the other. The aliens would be able to accomplish some goals this way, monitor Voyager from looking into their space and/or prevent them from polluting their subspace.
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One might also say that people get environmentally conscious about warp drives only at a certain tech level, a level where one can afford not to use "ordinary" warp. Presumably the ships of this race would have been faster than Voyager.
Too bad there was no such race in evidence. And I don't think we have any reason to believe that the "thousands of parsecs" statement had any truth in it - these fugitives could well have been operating safely outside Hierarchy holdings and the reach of Hierarchy law.
To justify why Chakotay bought "Janeway's" claim about an empire extending "thousands of parsecs, almost from here to Beta quadrant border", we could insert that comma in the statement. Perhaps the empire was thousands of parsecs across in some direction, but relatively narrow in the direction of the border. Or at least Chuckles would deduce so, in order to make sense of the seemingly fatigued "Janeway's" curious statement. The Doctor might have been making this stuff up on the run and been ignorant of or uninterested in the true distance to the quadrant border. (Would you want a hologram like that to pilot your shuttle, though?)