Topic: 10 hours 54 minutes untill the Voyager finale.
MIB
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ahhhhh. I'm excited. With Enterprise here I feel an all new appreciation for Voyager! In all seriousness, I have a good vibe about the finale.
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Don't forget to record everything for screencaps! I don't get UPN where I am, and We MUST get the first visual details of Enterprise as they show up tonight!
Mark
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I am planing on recording it. Unfortuatly, I have no way of getting screen caps and posting them on the internet. Sorry. I'll describe some of the more interesting stuff for you though.
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Again, I repeat, unless you're in NYC, there is no evidence to suggest you'll see Enterprise stuff after Endgame. (In other words, don't all start whinging and crying and saying TPTB lied to us.) What we do know is that UPN 9 from New York is doing a behind-the-scenes segment of Enterprise and from all indications it'll air only in the Big Apple. Does this rule out Paramount/UPN doing their own Enterprise preview that will air nationally? No. But we have no evidence whatever that such a preview exists.
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Remember before Insurrection they had behind the scenes stuff during Voyager.
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Tom's primer on US (and Canadian) television:
It basically works on a two-tiered system: network (which is usually "broadcast" on the traditional "airwaves" from local stations, but often these days is more commonly piped to people on cable) and cable.
Network television consists of hundreds of individual "affiliate" stations that behave kind of like restaraunt franchises. They operate out of major cities and broadcast local material (usually limited to news shows) mixed in with the actual national programming beamed to them by the network via satellite and rebroadcast with advertising that is predominately local. Each station will have a three or four letter name known as "call letters", beginning with "W" in the Eastern US (don't ask me why), "K" in the Western US and "C" in Canada. There are seven American networks: three larger ones (ABC, CBS and NBC), FOX somewhere in the middle, the not-for-profit PBS, and two "netlets," UPN and WB.
(in addition to getting rebroadcasts of nearby American network stations in Canada, we have three additional networks of our own: the CBC [which, like the Beeb, is state-owned], and private nets CTV and Global. Our two private networks don't put out a lot of unique programming but instead buy a mishmash of programming off the American networks, so most nights the shows on CTV and NBC or Global and ABC might be identical. Independent channels tend to be more widespread up here, too.)
Most large cities have one TV station affiliated with each network, although in some smaller markets UPN affiliates have dropped out of the UPN fold, thus depriving people of Voyager. Additionally, most networks have a "flagship" station (WABC, WCBS, WNBC etc.) which pipes out a fairly region-nonspecific feeds to satellite subscribers, and would therefore be the only thing remotely close to a "central" station. UPN never got one of these set up, to my knowledge.
Cable is generally more like the European system, with homogenous broadcasting across the nation, although region-specific cable has begun to crop up for sports channels. Cable channels tend to exclusively contain specialized programming, like CNN or the Golf Channel or Home and Garden TV or the Disney Channel etc. While anyone can (theoretically) put up an antenna and get network TV, cable is exclusive to cable and cable companies will make you pay through the nose... they stick channels into tiers and force someone who wants to get the Sci-Fi channel to buy twenty other less obscure channels as well. Finally, there are strict regulations that keep most American cable stations from broadcasting in Canada (CNN, TBS, TNN, CNBC and A&E are pretty much the only ones that are allowed in as they appear in the States, IIRC), so we have our own clatter of cable unique to Canada.
It might make more sense if I showed off my rather unremarkable slate of channels I get at my parent's house. These are all piped in on cable, so I have no idea what one can actually get with an antenna around here:
Network:
KREM (CBS from Spokane WA)
KXLY (ABC from Spokane WA)
KHQ (NBC from Spokane WA)
KSPS (PBS from Spokane WA) [to get the other American networks from Spokane, one must buy more cable. Oddly enough, my parents don't feel the need to get it. It's extortion, plain and simple ]
CBUT (CBC from Vancouver BC)
CISA (Global from Lethbridge AB)
C??? (Global from Vancouver BC, known only as BCTV)
CFCN (CTV from Calgary AB)
CIVT (CTV from Vancouver BC)
And then some bottom-tier cable channels, generally unwatchable:
Knowledge Network (arse-grade public educational programming from Vancouver)
Vision TV (new age religious/spiritual crap network)
The Weather Network (not to be confused with the even less-imaginitively-named "The Weather Channel", which is the American equivalent)
YTV (Youth Television, Canada's pseudo-answer to Nickelodeon)
The Golf Channel (self explanatory)
SpeedVision (car/boat/plane racing *snore*)
Family Channel (turd bits)
CNBC (authentic American cable, but it still sucks)
CTV NewsNet (Canadian Headline News)
MuchMusic (Canada's asskickingly better equivalent of MTV)
MuchMoreMusic (Canada's asskickingly mediocre equivalent of VH1)
Country Music Television Canada (Thank the lord you don't get it) Plus, the flick-right-by's, including an Italian Channel and two French Channels and APTN (Aboriginal TV)
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Nimrod: UPN has only existed as long as "Voyager". It was the show they used to start the network. TNG and DS9 were both syndicated. That means Paramount made the shows, then sold them to whatever local stations wanted to show them.
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