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I need some stuff from Susan Sackett and Gene Roddenberry's book The Making of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, if anyone can be helpful in this area.
Firstly, I'm looking for any info on the "ring ship" Enterprise from the rec deck wall display. Someone claimed a while back (I think it might have been Alpha Centauri) that the book mentioned it was the first sublight vessel to reach Alpha Centauri, but someone else told me that this info is not in fact in the book. (And no, I'm not getting confused with the Spaceflight Chronology.)
Secondly, I remember a behind-the-scenes photo of the actors playing the transporter accident victims standing on the pad and screaming. (Before the scene was done up as an optical.) If it's in the book or if anyone knows where sle I can find it, I'd really like to get a scan of it.
Thirdly, does the book make any note of the identity of the female transporter accident victim's identity? Roddenberry's novelisation claims it was the semi-estranged wife of Admiral Kirk, Vice-Admiral Lori Ciana, but does he or Sackett note this in this book as well?
Thanks, -MMOM
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That picture was also in the Trek calendar for 1980, as I recall. The woman in the picture seemed to be wearing a standard tan uniform, not anything like Kirk's two-tone outfit.
I don't think the book mentioned anything like that about the ring ship, but then it's been a LONG time since I had a copy.
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The book says, while describing the ship display:
"[...] since this was 23rd-century art work, the fourth illustration is of the very first starship U.S.S. Enterprise (never seen on television, but according to Gene Roddenberry, who supplied the sketch, it is a forerunner of the vessel we all know) [...]"
In other words, it is essentially what the NX-class Enterprise is supposed to be. Funny that Gene "Star Trek God" Roddenberry had the idea of a precursor starship Enterprise in 1978 with no fuss but everyone threw a fit when Berman and Braga actually did it 23 years later... Anyway, I guess officially this ring-ship would have to be a warp-capable vessel that comes before the NX-class Enterprise. I prefer to pretend the ring-ship never existed and the NX-01 was "really" in the display, since they fill the same role in future history. But then, I'm a glutton for punishment.
Nothing on the identity of the female officer, and I don't think the picture is in there. Incidentally, she is called simply "a human woman" in the script.
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MMoM: I actually have a photo of the two people on the transporter pad (sans transporter effects), from the TMP trading cards I made scans of for Harry way back when. Do you want me to scan it for you?
Also, I believe the book you are referring to is in the Frostburg State University library in Maryland. I know this because I went to school there, & I remember checking the book out. They also had the Making of TWOK.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: MMoM: I actually have a photo of the two people on the transporter pad (sans transporter effects), from the TMP trading cards I made scans of for Harry way back when. Do you want me to scan it for you?
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Why don't we just claim that the Temporal Cold War started to affect the details within the "proper" timeline? The NX Enterprise became something of an Akira Class, the Enterprise-E all of a sudden got up to 29 decks, and Janeway regrew her hair back in industrial strength form. And when the war is won at the end of Enterprise, we see a ring ship instead of the saucer/nacelle setup and the USS Horizon escorts the ship home.
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The record player is well and truly broken.
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Sorry...wasn't around this weekend...I'll scan the card tonight.
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quote:Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge: ...Why don't we just claim that the Temporal Cold War started to affect the details within the "proper" timeline? The NX Enterprise became something of an Akira Class....
Or perhaps the "original" timeline up through FirsT Contact HAD the ring ship enterprise, but after the Crew of the Enterprise-E travelled back in time that changed the timeline or "reset" it to the new style enterprise, which reminescently looks like the E-E through a telescope, and as far as lily seeing the enterprise-E in all her glory onboard, that influenced the interior designs as well. Maybe Cochrane and Sloan put their heads together and with a few "new friends" from their newly acquired fame, such as Archer, and came up with their own design of Enterprise (which paradoxially could be named after the Enterprise-E, rather than the other way around), we dont know enough of the backstory on its design so it is at least a plausable concept.
But of course that makes it impossible to insert new graphics or dialog in TOS, movies, TNG, etc to make that adjustment for the "new" timeline, whatever the case Im sure old Picard got a call from Temporal Investigations after they got back.
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