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In the ST Encyclopedia written by Michael Okuda. Moreover, the Horizon's (Sisko's model) registry is very close to the Essex's registry.
The same Encyclopedia that showed us what a Romulan ship in the 22nd century would look like?
I couldn't read the registry on Sisko's model, not having super amazing vision. Besides, what does that prove? Sisko could have given it any registry he wanted. Perhaps the one he used was his lucky number, or something?
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Prophecy selfFulfilling = new Prophecy; selfFulfilling = "I had too much to think last night."
Homework plus not disappointing expectations all in one post.
(On topic: Technically, there isn't even, necessarily, any proof that the war between Earth and Romulus came prior to the founding of the Federation, considering how many other early TOS references to "Earth" have been happily retrofitted. Though I would not personally consider this the most enjoyable storytelling choice.)
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I like the Daedalus. I think the debate is whether or not the model everyone assumes is the Daedalus class is actually the Daedalus class.
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Partly. I also think that the debate is whether the Daedalus is a fucking ugly design that would look awful and out of place on Enterprise, or...not.
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Ah. Yes, it would look out of place. But I think it fits right in with a design lineage based on TOS' Enterprise. And I still think a revamp of the design based on Enterprise's design could work. There's a guy over at Scifi-Meshes that was working on one. It looked darn yummy.
Do I think it will show up in Enterprise? No. There's no way that they will introcduce a more advanced ship than Enterprise during the series.
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I really, really can't believe I'm having this discussion again. Hopefully Lee will wander in soon, summerise everything, and then start kicking bottom.
However...
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: But I think it fits right in with a design lineage based on TOS' Enterprise.
How on Earth can you have a design lineage based on one ship?
quote:And I still think a revamp of the design based on Enterprise's design could work. There's a guy over at Scifi-Meshes that was working on one. It looked darn yummy.
That may be true. But every single one I've ever seen has looked, well, horrible. The Pasteur was about as good as that design could have been made, and that wasn't exactly nice to look at.
quote:Do I think it will show up in Enterprise? No. There's no way that they will introcduce a more advanced ship than Enterprise during the series.
Agreed. Especially since it would look a lot less advanced than the NX-01.
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I like the Daedalus very much. It has a wondeful "retro" feel to it of something that really came a century before the NCC-1701.
That being said, the NX-01 has grown on me quite a bit since it first appeared, and I now like the design much better than the Akira. Still, it doesn't look very primitive. It's passable, I'm not in any uproar about it like some, but they really could have done more (if only with the textures and surface detailing) to make it look more "retro."
I wouldn't mind at all seeing a slightly (emphasis on slightly) revamped version of the Daedalus on ENT later in the series. So long as they kept the fundamental elements of the design and didn't go to far from the model, I wouldn't be upset over it. But I definitely would like to see it in some form.
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Preferably like a smoldering, barely identifiable wreck. B)
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Preferably like a smoldering, barely identifiable wreck. B)
Agreed.
While the deadalus was okay to look at prior to Enterprise, we now have much better looking pre-TOS starship designs to choose from.
The "oildrum with nacelles" can be discarded from continuity as far as I'm concerned....or at least saved for the era just prior to TOS.
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quote:How on Earth can you have a design lineage based on one ship?
Simple. In the real world, design lineage works forward. It's natural. Over time, we see how the design of an object or vehiclke developes. When you're making the whole friggin' thing up, and you have to work backwards, you have to base it on *something*. So you take the TOS Enterprise and work backwards from it making up a design lineage based on the element you already have established. And that's what I meant. The Daedalus, to me, looks like a good precursor to the E-nil... until you throw in the NX-01 as a precursor to the Daedalus. Then it doesn't.
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