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Tim Drake is Robin, Batman's partner.
Originally, Dick Grayson was Robin. His costume was a variation on his outfit from 'The Flying Graysons' act at the circus, that he was wearing when he watched his parents die when the ropes were sabotaged. It had bare legs and a yellow cape.
Then Dick joined the Titans, started going out with Starfire, and decided not to be Bruce's partner anymore. He changed to a blue and yellow costume and called himself Nightwing.
Another boy was taken in by Bruce Wayne, Jason Todd. He wore Dick's old Robin costume. Jason Todd was murdered by the Joker.
The third Robin was Tim Drake. Questioning the wisdom of wearing a bright yellow cape and having so much exposed skin as a crimefighter, Tim opted for a sleeker costume.
This costume is worn by the Robin in Teen Titans, however, all logic points away from it being Tim Drake in the Tim Drake costume, since Tim is probably five to ten years younger than Dick Grayson and the rest of the team depicted there.
Dick Grayson is the only Robin who was part of the Titans team alongside Starfire, Cyborg, Raven and Beast Boy, even though he never wore the modern costume in any other incarnation
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Dick Grayson also grew a mullet at one point. I think that the little elf slippers and yellow cape destroyed any sense of fashion that the boy used to have.
Thank god he got that (accidently) cut off. And changed Nightwing's costume so that it actually looked, y'know, cool.
The fact that we've seen into the future in Teen Titans (animated), and it shows that Robin becomes Nightwing, indicates that it probably is Dick, and not Tim. Likewise, in a new episode we meet Robin's clone brother from a parallel dimension, who has a very silly name that's something like Nosyarg KciD. I think. I wasn't looking at the screen at that point, but I think the name flies around the screen and is reversed briefly behind him. Not that it matters, since they decide that it's a silly name and call him Larry.
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Because they don't do a course in that. And I'm not overly familiar with it. I picked up the comic and was scared by how weird everyone looked. Starfire has big boobies! And look's like the person they get when they can't afford to hire Pheonix.
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Three full-length posts on the TT in the same thread in less than a day is more than I can stand.
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I never heard of Jason Todd, although that's probably because I only watched the animated series and never had the cash to follow the comics.
I have to admit, Nightwing is much cooler than Batman.
Anything else interesting I should know?
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Tim Drake was introduced in the final season of the batman Animated Series (when the animation get soooo much better and the stories got soooo much darker).
In the animated series, Dick does become Nightwing and Tim gets the cool new Robin costume and the extending metal staff.
In the comics, Jason Todd is a street kid that tries to steal the Batmobile. Bruce takes him in, makes him the second Robin. Jason is reckless, takes on the Joker and is brutally killed. A year later finds Batman becoming increasingly violent and Bruce being Batman 100% of the time. Tim Drake (in Jr. High) does some detective work and figures out that Dick Grayson is Nightwing. Doesnt take too much thinking to put the rest together. Tim just shows up in the Batcave, starts saving Bruce's ass from time to time and becomes the New Robin by saving him from The Scarecrow. Tim gets sent off abroad for a year to be trained (by the world's top killer, it turns out) and is the more of Batman's partner than sidekick. Tim keeps Bruce from going too far. In the comics, Tim (Robin)is 16-17 years old: a in high school.
Read Jim Lee's run of Batman (called "Hush") for some great storytelling with both Robin and Batman playing head games with Catwoman.
Somehow they forgot about Tim with Teen Titans. Ug.
On the good side, Paul Dini is making a new -more adult oriented?- Batman Animated series starting with his first mission as Batman: Bruce is thinner than we're used to seeing Batman (but still bigger than Nightwing ever gets) and a bit lower tech (black leather utility belt with pouches). Looks cool from the teaser pics I've seen.
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