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Lee
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I'm not sure if this is old news, or even news at all, but I've only recently come across a copy of the proposed reboot by J. Michael Straczynski and Bryce Zabel, from Zabel's own blog. The proposal is here in PDF format.

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The essential news is old, but the details are new.
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Lee
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Yeah. I mean, we all knew they had a concept, but not really what it entailed beyond being a reboot. And the proposal doesn't give all that much more away.

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We will keep the classic silhouette of the Enterprise, but fit her out with a level of amazing technology based on what the best and the brightest minds tell us the future will look like in 200 years. Tricorders and communicators were predicted by the original Trek and are already upon us in GPS technology and cell phones. What new wonders can we predict for the future knowing what we know now?
This is the interesting bit. Can you have a new and modern-looking interior, costumes and props while retaining the TOS-era exterior? We're used to a bit more streamlining these days. . .

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I don't think rebooting the series would work right now. Enterprise has only been off the air for a year. Rebooted shows like Battlestar Galactica and Doctor Who came from shows which were cancelled years ago. While the original Star Trek is still liked, if rebooted people would just go "not another one!". I'd say let a couple of years pass and then let us see about this re-booting business.
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Lee
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Well, at this stage it's all moot, anyway. This isn't what they're going with. Be a bit amusing - if not potentially-litigiously-coincidental - if Abrams' concept is at all similar. . .

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Interesting read. Sounds like Star Trek mixed with some B5 with the story behind "The Chase" as an overall arc.

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Trek need to stay as far away from JMS and other comic-book writers as possible and go with sci-fi authors for ideas.

I've seen shitty comic-book sci-fi (Legend of The Rangers, any B5 movie) and Trek deserves better.
What's more, Trek needs to stay away from the egomaniacs that demand total creative control.

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I would actually be very excited to see this!
I was a little skepticle with the "Reboot" of BSG, but after getting into it - i fell in love with it.

And as is mentioned above, I think that taking what we know now and modernizing the sets to include what we think the Enterprise would look like 200 years from now would be awesome to see...

I don't think this is a bad idea at all. and no, i don't think it's too soon either. It may be too soon for some people .. but for those of us who love Trek for the sake of loving it - I think it would be an idea that would be well embraced.

(edit: Let me rephrase that. For those of us who just love Trek for it's entertainment value - and not all of the Technology, Timelines, Canonical Storylines and all that ... i think it'll sail nicely... for those who are rooted in the Tech, Ship designs and registries, Canonical Histories.. it may be more difficult to accept the changes proposed in the New Reboot..

I didn't mean to imply that those people loved it any less... )

The only thing they would REALLY have to do is get a cast with a lot of chemistry! This is where Voyager failed... i felt no chemistry among the actors ... and the writing was horrible...

Keep B&B away from the project and it could work nicely..

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quote:
Originally posted by Mars Needs Women:
I don't think rebooting the series would work right now. Enterprise has only been off the air for a year. Rebooted shows like Battlestar Galactica and Doctor Who came from shows which were cancelled years ago. While the original Star Trek is still liked, if rebooted people would just go "not another one!". I'd say let a couple of years pass and then let us see about this re-booting business.

I think that's a big point. BSG's "reboot" works because the franchise was untouched since 1978/1979 (ignoring Galactica 1980 and the scant few books). People tried to revitalize the series in the meantime, but the NuBSG we have now is the only one to see fruition.

Star Trek, on the other hand, has had a steady stream of new stories since 1979. 10 movies and 4 spin-off series.

I think this volume of work is too fresh for a reboot to work now. Further, I think the amount of material Trek related is so enormous that a reboot would be ill-received.

There are a ton more Trek fans than Battlestar fans. The backlash against NuBSG was a small ripple compared to the backlash Trek fans would unleash.

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While noisy and boisterous, I don't think fan backlash would bring something like this down. (In fact, as stated in their proposal it probably would only increase media attention.) Unless the show really sucked. Which by the sounds of it, it wouldn't. I'm a little disappointed, actually, that they'd recycle the original characters. I'm wondering whether their plans included an event from "Universe A" to set into motion their "Universe B".

I'm just a little mad that my (non-trek) show has some similar elements and so now I'm going to get accused of ripping JMS off despite having only read the pdf this morning.

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What, is JMS a "one-trick pony" or something? What is it with his "obsession" with the idea of the Ancients?

Babylon-5: The focus of the entire show centered around the Shadow War where known races fought against an ancient race (or races, counting the Vorlon) with advanced, mysterious, technology.

Crusade: Tales of a starship and her crew exploring the galaxy in search of lost technology of the Ancients in order to find a cure for a plagued Earth.

Star Trek: Reboot is sounding a lot like this same concept, only without the initial idea of a war. I can easily imagine, however, the story turning into a war between the Federation and other Alpha Quadrant races (Klingons, Romulans, etc...) over who would ultimately possess said Ancient technology.

I can, however, see the appeal of tying certain Star Trek stories into one cohesive whole. The time portal from "City on the Edge of Forever" coming from the same technology that created the Planet Killer in "Doomsday Machine," and both technologies being linked to the civilizations discovered in "Wink of an Eye," "Return to Tomorrow," and "For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky."

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Well, it's hardly fair to count B5 and "Crusade" separately. I mean, since the First Ones were a major factor in the B5 universe, it kind of makes sense they would crop up in other shows set in the same universe.
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I'm a negatory on this one - ditch Berman and EVERYONE in the old guard, but keep jms and others out of it too. The B5 arc is a proven history of failure with jms at the helm; it's worked only once, and that concept was a hit and miss five years of television that was hardly rewarded with stellar ratings. My opinion is that he's just redressing his same old formulae AGAIN but hoping to use the Trek franchise name to make it happen. Pass.

And jeez, can you imagine the interminable jms monologuing with some actor trying to give a Kirk delivery? Weren't some of those speeches long ENOUGH already?!

Mark

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How about "Alien vs. Straczynski".


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Reboots are evil. Period. Take the trouble to fix whatever's gone wrong with Trek. Don't just throw everything out and start over again. That's lazy and lame.

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