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Saltah'na
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1) In ST:VI, we see Praxis blowing up, and giving the Excelsior a rather cool ride. We also learn that the explosion of Praxis has polluted the atmosphere of Q'onoS. Because of the magnitude of the wave when the Excelsior was hit, it is safe to assume that Praxis is located close to the Klingon-Fed Border. Because the same wave had disasterous consequences on Q'onoS, we are led to believe that Q'onoS is also close (but not too close) to Praxis, and thus the Klingon/Fed Border (which is not a good idea in a fight). Someone suggested that Q'onoS is at the heart of Klingon space. This tends to dispute that theory.

2) Another suggestion was that the Q'onoS mentioned in ST:VI was abandoned after the Praxis Disaster, the Klingons didn't have the resources to combat such a catastrophe. As well, the during the Khitomer Peace Talks, mention was made of an evacuation of Q'onoS. The Q'onoS mentioned in TNG and DS9 is probably a relocation of the original Klingon homeworld. Yet a third possibility is that the Klingons abandoned Q'onoS while the Klingons were working to restore the Original Homeworld. They may have returned before TNG took place.

What do you think?

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Hobbes
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I know this is off the subject, but the Klingon ship, Kronos One... shouldn't it be spelled Qo'noS One?

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Obi Juan
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In response to your first point. What makes you think that the Excelsior was in Federation Space? I don't recall it ever being said that they were. We know that they were obviously close to the Klingon Border but that doesn't neccesarily mean the border with the Federation. They could have easily been charting gaseous anomolies in unclaimed space or in a neatral territory not adverse to Ferderation ships poking around their stellar phenomenon.
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Kosh
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I'm most comfortable with them going to another planet and staying there. Something in orbit losing so much mass in an explotion would have to have an effect on the planet. I suppose the technology exsists to repair the damage, but would have taken a long time.

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PsyLiam
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Qu'on'os is the most accurate spelling using English cahracters and sounds, while Kronos is the most phonetically correct.

There was the Praxis being a moon of Qu'on'os idea, but if the shockwave hit the Excelsior a fair distance away, imagine what it would have done to a planet next to it? Nasty...

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Elim Garak
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*has never seen so many spellings for the same planet name on one page before*

I'd say they almost had to have evacuated (whoever was left), considering that shockwave could've definitely done a lot of damage.

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Sol System
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In the movie, they discussed ecological damage done to the homeworld, not physical damage. Perhaps the subspace shockwave didn't affect the planet, possibly due to the planet's gravity well.

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TSN
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Well, considering that the shockwave was (however implausibly) planar, it may have missed the planet altogether...

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Elim Garak
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But every shockwave on Star Trek is planar.

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PsyLiam
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The one from Veridia in Generations wasn't planar. HAH!

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Elim Garak
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Looked it to me... The one in the Amargosa system was, anyway.

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Sol System
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No...unless I'm grossly mistaken, the shockwaves from Generations were clearly expanding shells of matter from those stars.

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AndrewR
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ILM, used the shockwave from ST:VI in the SE of Jedi...

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Bernd
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That's a nice topic to discuss with Mike Wong who mocks about Federation technology which is affected by a subspace shockwave, while a planet is not. Praxis is not necessarily orbiting Kronos from all I know from the movie. Yet, it was probably meant as one of the moons of Kronos, since it would make more sense if the moon with the main power supply were close to a planet where the power is needed.

BTW: Wouldn't the correct spelling be:
[official transcription of Klingon name of what we pronounce "Kronos"]+" "+[official transcription of Klingon number "One"]

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So, Qo'noS wa', IIRC the Klingon for "one"...?

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