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The only thing that looks old about the ship is the nacelles .Maybe a more detailed look in the future will reveal the more un-smoothed look that was being talked about.
I saw it revealed at trek today but know its gone from the site. Maybe its all the fans trying to get in there for a look
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Im pretty sure that at Trek Today i read that the nacelles where to be slightly lower than the saucer section but i cant go back and read it again because the article has mysteriously dissapeared from the site. It will probably be back soon.
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Right now, I feel like killing this shameless plagiator Eaves, and all of his continuity-despising gang. This is the worst I have seen in 30 years of canon Trek.
I mean, I don't care if this series is non-canon - there is MORE than enough Trek already to pour over... I found myself watching "Friday's Child" with awe and "The Defector" with baited breath, and "The High Ground" with thought and "Second Sight" with child-like wonder Last night...
TOATALLY AWESOME! Who needs new crap Trek - we already have some totally beautiful episodes to watch.
Andrew
P.S. Watching "The High Ground" - one of MANY reasons to have a Crusher-centric storyline in the next Trek movie.
Oh, and our second?? "Jean-Luc there is something that I have to tell you" line! CLASSIC!
Andrew
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Oh my God. Please tell me this is some sort of joke. I think I'm actually going to cry. That can't be it. It can't. Bernd, you are completely correct. Plagiarism in the highest degree. It is the Akira, de-modernized, and not done well by any means. It looks like an anachronistic contemporary of the Constitution-class. The lines of the ship are just WRONG for something that came before the Constitution and Daedelus. And if those odd shaped trapezoid-quadrilaterals port and starboard aft are impulse engines...oh God. *buries face in hands* I'm going to crawl under the desk and cry a little now.
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Like where the pylon connects with the nacelle, position of the bridge, length of the hull "extensions", etc.? All pretty much superficial. The overall design is so completely plagiarized it kills me. They even mimicked the notch in the forward hull. >.< Ugh...
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I'm obsessive compulsive, dontcha remember? And Sol, it isn't that I don't like the design. It's that it was taken DIRECTLY from the Akira. The lines are almost exactly the same. What that shows me is a complete lack of creativity, and I have always found the creative aspect of the show, how they come up with unique starship designs, worlds, sets, etc. one of its best aspects. One of the reasons I watched really bad Voyager episodes.
The Ambassador has completely different lines from the Constitution. It more resembles the Galaxy than a Constitution. The secondary hull of the Ambassador is WAY out of proportion, too short and thick, when compared to the relatively thin and large primary hull. The primary hull itself is completely different. The connecting dorsal is wide and thick. The impulse drives are configured differently and in different positions. On the dorsal for the Ambassador, on the aft edge of the saucer for the Constitution. The nacelle and pylon configuration is very different as well. They don't sweep up at an angle, but rather are configured like that of an Excelsior, with the pylons forming a 90 degree angle.
A better example would be the comparison between the Constitution and the Constitution-refit. Superficial changes. The pylons are swept up and back, not just up. The bridge module changed. The main sensor/deflector was updated. The upper and lower navigational domes were changed. More running lights added. Aft hangar bay doors were modified. The overall lines are identical.
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Only someone as stupid as Janeway would say "The rebelion is dead."
Down with Enterprise!
http://webj.subspacerelay.com Join up, let's get this thing rolling. It's time to kick Berman and Braga out of Star Trek.
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LOL , Look Whos to say the pencil pushing designers at starfleet werent looking through the history books one day and found the design of the SS Enterprise and decided to mold the Akira after it!?
I mean really who cares , you cant expect these people at paramount to please everyone , they are trying to make a TV show , not revolutionize the world , this isnt the 60s theres no space race to get people thinking about sci-fi they cant keep making these shows to suit an ever more shrinking group of people. If you all feel that this isnt "trek" which in my opinion it isnt , fine dont look at it as "trek" just look at it as another scifi show.
I understand that you feel that this is "THE END OF TREK , OH MY GOD!" but people said the same about Voyager and about countless other things.
I see people are already doing SIZE COMPARISONS , geez , stop picking the show apart before its even aired , you all know your going to watch it religiously anyway so just sit back and chill out.
I cant believe how much i enjoy things more now that I've stopped tearing them apart and sucking all the fun out of them.
As for my opinion of Enterprise
I'll wait and see , its not Trek , infact i dont think its meant to be , i think its just another show on tv , and whether i enjoy it or not depends on story and characters not what "warp scale" they use or the exact length of the ship or whether the ship looks to "Akiraish"
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.Maybe a more detailed look in the future will reveal the more un-smoothed look that was being talked about.
And Sol, it isn't that I don't like the design. It's that it was taken DIRECTLY from the Akira. The lines are almost exactly the same. What that shows me is a complete lack of creativity, and I have always found the creative aspect of the show, how they come up with unique starship designs, worlds, sets, etc. one of its best aspects. One of the reasons I watched really bad Voyager episodes.
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