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Enterprise is going to be a rainbow of colors, ain't it? Zap2It says we have blue, green, yellow, and purple. Add to that the red strip we've seen on Chief Engineer Tucker in that promo. Let's see...
Red I'm guessing is the department color for Engineering (Tucker's wearing it).
Yellow I'm guessing is the department color for command and flight control (Archer and Mayweather were wearing that color in the promo).
Purple I'm guessing is the department color for communications. Seems odd to put communications in a department all by itself, but I suppose the communication functions on starships isn't as routine and self-operating as the future series (Sato was wearing this color in the promo).
That leaves us with blue and green. So far, the science, medical, and security departments are unaccounted for. As my own speculation, I'd throw science and medical together since they are so closely related. They'd probably be blue to keep in line with the TOS color scheme. Therefore, green would go to security.
And all of this is dependent on that report being correct and someone not mistaking the yellow for the green (like was so often done for Kirk's tunic in TOS).
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Well, security and engineering have always struck me as "the odd couple" when it came to uniform colors. I can see science blending into medical enough that separating them mightn't be too useful, but one would thing engineers have no more to do with security than scientists do. But, from what we can tell, Reed is equivalent of Security Chief on the Enterprise, and he's in the same color as Tucker in the shots we saw. So it would appear that this lumping-together is remaining intact.
But, is this color that red? While it looked really red in the ET footage, based on how the blues in the uniform turned out far less saturated than they look in the trailer I'm willing to speculate that the ET people had some lighting balance issues. Indeed, it looks far more of cranberry-ey/mangenta type colour in the shots of Tucker in the trailer. Could it even be called purple to some eyes?
Now, I'll be the first to point out how unscientific my color saturation blasting was with that dark pic of Hoshi and that my picking-out of purple traces in the right spot on her shoulders could be nothing more than a fluke. (And they were very much violet, not close to Tucker's magenta.) Still, it's likely that more than two departments will be represented in the uniforms of the human senior staff if only for variety's sakes. So I'd be inclined to put her in a different department anyway. Considering she seems to be more of an academic than an adventurer, she might be in the science department, or possibly there could be a distinct colour for mission specialists.
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While I was writing that last post I downloaded a higher rez trailer. Well, in a word, so much for my photshop enhancement skills. The fram I was working with before was clearly quite useless, because there's about one single frame where Hoshi's light does indeed cast some illumination on her shoulders...
<scotty>It's green</scotty>
More specifically, a bluey sea green. But the lighting is so awful it could probably be anywhere from blue to forest green. But that narrows things down a bit.
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Engineering and security is an odd pairing, isn't it? Evidentally, there is a good deal of overlap in those two departments. I think it was TNG's "Chains of Command" where La Forge was complaining to Riker that Captain Jerico had transferred a third of the engineering staff to security. So, who knows?
In the ET promos, that shoulder strip definitely looked red. But the lighting for the special report was bumped up a bit. The trailer does make it seem that the strip is cranberry color. It's close to purple. Unfortunately, I must have missed the pictures of Reed 'cause I haven't seen him anywhere. And looking at the trailer more closely, I can't even tell if Sato is in her uniform or not. So, who knows?
Tucker in shuttle Red? Cerise? Magenta? Burgundy? Cranberry? Maroon?
And, for our local Vogon, a straight grab and enhancement of the shot w/the boys playing in the snow with the phase pistol.
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And of course, The_Tom sneaks in a post with pictures while I was working on my response. Yep, looks like Sato is wearing a form of green.
About the dude in the hood, I'm not sure if its a Suliban or not. A couple seconds later, we see a hooded woman kissing Archer. But if it is a Suliban, he sure doesn't look all that exotic. The Suliban are supposed to have an exoskeleton, right?
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If hooded jumping guy = Archer's belle then Roseanne Arnold = Supermodel.
What we can see of the face certainly has the evil reptilian thing going for it, (DH said teh script describes the Suliban as "Chameleon-like") and these guys are meant to be able to do all manner of funky things with their bodies, one possibly being jumping like a jackrabbit.
Interesting note on Tucker's rank pips... It looks like there're three of them, with the middle different to the outer ones. Lt. Cmdr?
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Well, if I was jumping onto a spool of hose, holding a gun, wearing a hood, had a sinister expression of my face, and was obscured in the shadows, people would say I look like Roseanne Arnold, too.
Yep, looks like Tucker's middle pip is different from the surrounding two. It looks darker; either black with a shiney outline to it or just a darker shade of gray. I'd say lieutenant commander.
quote:Originally posted by Siegfried: Engineering and security is an odd pairing, isn't it? Evidentally, there is a good deal of overlap in those two departments. I think it was TNG's "Chains of Command" where La Forge was complaining to Riker that Captain Jerico had transferred a third of the engineering staff to security. So, who knows?
Well, the idea in the original series was to have "Command," "Science," and "Services." Engineering, security, communications, ordnance, shuttlecraft people, and so on aren't line officers, and they aren't scientists, so they get grouped together. I would have had the helm and navigation people in red if it were me, but it seems that people (in any department) who are on the command track can wear gold. Now, the part that's harder to explain is the numerous scientists wearing red (e.g. Marla McGivers) and services people wearng blue (e.g. Charlene Masters) or gold (e.g. Angela Martine).
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Just a thought I had in regards to lumping engineering and security together. Many other, non Star Trek, military sci-fi, use combat mareines(sp?) for both combat and as backup ship damage controll guys. This indicates that they may have a basis in combining them.
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I thought the Suliban were "chameleon-like" because they could change shape? Maybe they can look human when they want to...?
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Well spoilers have said that the Enterprise crew run into a Suilban rengade who hasn't under gone Gentic Alteration. Given similarites betwwen jumping guy and the chick Archer is kissing I'm guessing she's the renegade.
Btw the Shot with the Klingon in the trailer, any body else think thats the inside of a Suilban ship? It lacks the interior design associated with Kilingo ships and the interface looks to modern for the Enterprise (looks kind like the one from the Relativity).
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I had guessed that the Klingon was either on a Suliban ship or in a Suliban outpost. He's restrained to the chair and the interface on the surrounding consoles seem to be some kind of LCARS-like system. Too modern for the Enterprise period.
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Nice one Tom. I actually had a preliminary Enterprise weapons page ready to go, with a couple of basic pause-screen capture grabs from the promo. But yours're better. 8)
The page will go up as soon as I reconfigure the front page to accomodate another section.
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