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LOL... just be careful, I remember something about Paramount shutting down Trek sites a while back. They may not like a site that condemns Star Trek getting in a national magazine.
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Well, when you have a Willy next to a Wrangler, you can tell which one came first.
Put the Enterpise NX-01 next to the 1701...you get the idea.
Although I wouldn't say that something looks too "cool" to not be old. I doubt that the creativity of Eaves and Berman is so low that they can't design a cool ship that you could tell was older than the 1701, just as you can tell a Willy is older than a Wrangler. In fact, the current NX-01 design could be tweaked just a little, and it would look more convincing as a predecessor.
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Bernd: It's too bad they didn't give a direct link to the page in which you explain in great detail just why the Akiraprise doesn't work. Oh, well. At least they mentioned the homepage.
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quote:Put the Enterpise NX-01 next to the 1701...you get the idea
Why? I wouldn't put a Willy next to a Land Runner and demand comparisons, because they're not the same "class" of vehicle.
You'd want to put the Enterprise next to the Akira-Class.
And, frankly, if you put the NX-01 next to the movie Enterprise, you could probably tell which one was "newer." Let's not bash Enterprise because special effects in the sixties really sucked, eh?
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I like the new/old design. Again we're looking back instead of looking forward.
Remember ... in the 60's TOS Enterprise was as good as they could do with the money they had.. I know my opinion here may not be popular, but jesus!! We're in the Millenium .. I'm glad they didn't get stuck designing the NX-01 using the TOS Enterprise as a model... cuz that would have disappointed me.
Are we all gonna get pissed if the helm station has a monitor with an ACTUAL display on them .. cuz they certainly didn't have that in TOS.
The creators took a leap forward into the future from the year 2001 and made a product... They didn't look back from the 24th century.. So let's just try to enjoy the show without hating it because "the ship doesn't look old enough".
quote: Bernd: It's too bad they didn't give a direct link to the page in which you explain in great detail just why the Akiraprise doesn't work. Oh, well. At least they mentioned the homepage.
They can put direct links in print media now?
Assuming people can still type out their own URLs , they did give the URL, so Bernd's page counter must be pretty happy.
As for the "Oh my god its the end of trek because this ship is to cool" issue , it all comes down to..
Cool Ship = New viewers.
Ugly campy ship = happy hardcore fan who will watch the show anyway.
I'm not saying they couldnt design something that would please everyone , oh wait , yeah thats exactly what I'm saying.
Really the only things that makes this ship look futuristic are the details on the hull and some of the extra lighting ,which you should expect from todays detailed 3d effects.
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As Soundwave says, I just hope that Paramount don't start enforcing their copyright on images Bend's posted at his site. Is Paramount so thin-skinned and vindictive that it would go after him for a bit of criticism?
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quote:As for the "Oh my god its the end of trek because this ship is to cool" issue , it all comes down to..
Cool Ship = New viewers.
Ugly campy ship = happy hardcore fan who will watch the show anyway.
I think the whole point of the Akiraprise issue is that TPTB could have made a "cool" 22nd century ship that its hardcore fans would have liked. Instead, they blatantly ripped off a design from a really cool ship and turned it into a really wierd ship for its time. I find nothing cool about the NX-01 whatsoever. And I seriously doubt that a cool ship will attract new viewers anyway. People know this is a new Star Trek series, no matter what it's called or how much it's being touted as different. If they're not into Star Trek or science fiction, they're not going to watch the show. Period. It has nothing to do with what the ship looks like.
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Well we are all familiar with the fact that we are getting recycled Voyager scripts from bad writers, so they will need all the new fans they can get. Voyager brought into the Trek fold a lot of dumb fans anyway
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