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Hobbes
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Or it could be like real Navy ships which have different prefixes. CV = carrier, CVN = nuclear carrier. DD = destroyer, etc...

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Michael Dracon
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So what would NX be? New eXplorer?

Anyway, NX class actually sounds more logical with DY classes around. And as said before, it can explain the Dauntless name. It can even constitute (I just had to use that word) to Kirk's Enterprise being the first.

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I would prefer NX-01-class. It fits better to the DY-100-class and IIRC it's possible to say CVN-65-class instead of Enterprise-class in the US Navy.

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Alshrim Dax
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I understood that the NX Registry means that the ship is Experimental or a Prototype..

The Defiant's Registry, we all know, is NX-74205. SO therefore, the Enterprise, being the first registered deep-space experimental ship, would be NX-01.

Some would argue that the Pheonix should have the registry NX-01 - however, there was no Starfleet then.

So.. What do I think NX stands for?

Naval Experiment, in keeping with Naval Tradition.

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IN keeping with Hobbs' suggestion, I went into an online search.. and found a really good site for US Registered Ships.

The CV, CVN, etc.. are all Hull Registries in the US Navy.

As shown here...

http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/S_TYPE.HTM

How ever...

The USS Enterprise (Aircraft Carrier), is registered as CVN 65!

The C - represents that it is a Carrier.
The N - represents that it is a Nuclear Vessel.

The V - is a mystery. Vessel?

It is in a class of its own - CVN 65.

The other sister ships are all CVN 68 .. but have their own registery numbers...

    Class Hull Name
    CVN 65 CVN 65 ENTERPRISE
    CVN 68 CVN 68 NIMITZ
    CVN 68 CVN 69 DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER
    CVN 68 CVN 70 CARL VINSON
    CVN 68 CVN 71 THEODORE ROOSEVELT
    CVN 68 CVN 72 ABRAHAM LINCOLN
    CVN 68 CVN 73 GEORGE WASHINGTON
    CVN 68 CVN 74 JOHN C. STENNIS
    CVN 68 CVN 75 HARRY S. TRUMAN
    CVN 68 CVN 76 RONALD REAGAN

So.. It would be sticking with Navel Tradition to have the Enterprise NX-01 share its class with its registery number as our own USS Enterprise has done.

Just thought I'd share.

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Shik
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V is for "aviation." At the time CV1 was built, CA was being used for heavy (or "armored") cruisers.

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CVN is the hull number. CVN-68 is the USS Nimitz. All other ships that are designed to the Nimitz's specifications are called "Nimitz" class. Not CVN-68 class. Though it may be technically allowable, its not the accepted use. CVN-65 is the USS Enterprise. Only the Enterprise is built to those specifications, which is why when it is referred to as belonging to a class, you will here it referred to as "Enterprise" class. Something similar is done with the USS John F. Kennedy.

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quote:
All other ships that are designed to the Nimitz's specifications are called "Nimitz" class. Not CVN-68 class

Are you sure? CVN-68 class and similiar designations (eg DD-xx class) are used in some books about the US Navy I read.

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V is for "aviation." At the time CV1 was built, CA was being used for heavy (or "armored") cruisers.

Hmmn...

I live within driving distance of the Alameda Naval Base (The one visited by Kirk and Co. in STIV) and recently visited to take a tour of the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Hornet CV-12, which is moored there as a flaoting museum. (The Hornet is the ship that picked up Neil Armstrong and the Apollo 11 crew after splashdown. It was really cool, I got to walk in his footsteps [painted on the deck] to the isolation/decontamination chamber that they put the astronauts in. [This was before they knew whether there were any dangerous organisms on the moon that could be brought back.] I got to go inside the chamber and put my ear to the phone that Armstrong spoke to President Kennedy on! I missed the engine room tour, [Damn!] but I got to see the med-science lab, the infirmary, the operating room, crewmen's quarters, mess hall, and of course the hangar deck, where they have several WWII and Vietnam/Korean War vintage aircraft. [Very Cool!] And I also got to tour the bridge.)

Anyways, on the bridge tour, the docent said that the 'V' stood for 'heaVier than air' indicating that the vessel was a seagoing ship and not an Airship. He being the docent and all, I took him at his word, but I guess he could've been wrong.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:

The Hornet is the ship that picked up Neil Armstrong and the Apollo 11 crew ...I got to walk in his footsteps [painted on the deck]...and put my ear to the phone that Armstrong spoke to President Kennedy on!


Neat trick, given that Kenedy died in 1963 and the Hornet picked up the Apollo 11 Command Module in 1969. I believe the president you are looking for is "Nixon".

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With more reading, OnToMars is absolutely correct... everywhere the CVN68 is considered the Nimitz Class Carrier.

But, i'm still trying to find out what the 'V' is. Seems there is still some confusion.


http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nebula/1424/entrpris/cvn65.html

This site - tho' not official, says that it is Carrier Vessel Nuclear. I don't know how right this guy is.

But this would seem to stay true that all Millitary sites that I've been to consider the CVN a Nuclear Carrier Vessel ..

Without the N - it is just a strait Carrier Vessel powered by diesel .. etc...

Now.. I've also been to this site: http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym?CV

Which says that the V stands for a Carrier with a Fixed Wing. *Shrugs*

And here - http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=CVN&Find=Find - the acronym is defined as Carrier Vessel Nuclear. However -- I got to this site via the Navy Military site.: http://www.cnet.navy.mil/nascweb/amo/amo_links.htm

So.. I'm thinkin' CVN=Carrier Vessel Nuclear.

But here: http://reserveweb.fitcpac.navy.mil/isrtm/surface.htm

They say that the V stands for "Aircraft" *Shakes head... AHHHHHH!!

So... lots of different definitions.. and still .. not sure which one I should believe.

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Monkey, I've taken that tour. Very cool. Took me like five trips out to visit my sister (who lives in SF) to drag her and my mom out there.

But personally, there was something even cooler than walking in the footsteps of Neil Armstrong...


...walking in the footsteps of Pete Conrad.


I'd bet money nobody here knows who he is.

I'm almost positive V simply stands for vessel. How it came to be, I do not know. But they could've put in there just to not have a one letter prefix. Like the designations for battleships are BB instead of just B.

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quote:
Neat trick, given that Kenedy died in 1963 and the Hornet picked up the Apollo 11 Command Module in 1969. I believe the president you are looking for is "Nixon"

Yes, I apologize. I meant Nixon. It was like eleven o'clock when I posted. Maybe I should sleep before recounting my stories...

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From Alshrim Dax "I understood that the NX Registry means that the ship is Experimental or a Prototype.. The Defiant's Registry, we all know, is NX-74205. SO therefore, the Enterprise, being the first registered deep-space experimental ship, would be NX-01."

NX designates an experimental ship in the

Federation starfleet... we have no idea of how the registry system works in the Earth Starfleet. To get around certain problems, the two systems almost have to be different. As I said before, perhaps the NX designation in new Federation ships is an homage to the "old" Earth registry system of the NX class ships.

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Y'know, a lot of people have been saying that whole Earth Starfleet VS. Federation Starfleet, but the more I think about it, I don't think that TPTB or the writers are really thinking of it that way. It seems more like it's the same Starfleet we've always known, and that they really are trying to imply that the Enterprise is the first Starfleet ship. I know it's ridiculous, but I think that's how they're treating it.

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