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Malnurtured Snay
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The only point I was trying to make is that Silik may not have been saving Enterprise so much because of the role it may or may not play directly, but indirectly. Or something along those lines somewhere.

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Siegfried
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As I said in one of the other "Cold Front" threads, I think that Silik may have staged the disaster deliberately. Through some means (maybe asking the freighter captain to take a different path through the nursery?) he managed to get Enterprise in a position that would cause it to get hit by the plasma flare. That way, he try and reason with Archer that he was not really the one Archer should be worried with since he saved Enterprise from destruction.

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Siegfried: You're right; you shouldn't have told people that. Not necessarily for my sake. More because Lexa Doig was seven years old in 1980...
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Siegfried
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'Fraid not, my son. You see, I took the present-day Lexa Doig back in time with to 1980 to do the horizontal hoedown. I didn't go back in time to 1980 to violate a first grader. Sloppy sentence construction on my part, I'll admit that.

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I think that Silik CAUSED the accident in the first place, only to then save the Enterprise and look like a good-guy to Archer. When they were fighting in the Jeffries Tude-area, Archer threatened Silik with his pistol and Silik said something like "Careful, Captain. You wouldn't want to cause another antimatter burst, would you?"

Sounds kinda like Silik caused the first one to me...

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Timo
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Might be. At least it cannot have been the intention of Silik to really destroy the ship. His master would not want that to happen, or else he'd already have ordered the ship's destruction back in "Broken Bow" when it was ridicuously easy.

From the looks of it, this FutureGuy might be trying to save the Enterprise for a special occasion. He probably has other means to his unknown yet undoubtedly nefarious end, but if they all fail like the Klingon civil war plot did, he's probably already got some sort of a long-term backup plan for which he needs an intact and possibly cooperative NX-01.

Which may be a rather stupid thing, from his point of view and from Paramount's. What is there left for the heroes to do when even the villains want to protect the ship?

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I've asked this before, and no one at the Slipstream answered (May have something to do with the question). When Silik was talking to his contact in the future, you get a good look at the outline of the future guy. Looked like Danials to me. Anyone else notice?

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Ryan McReynolds
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If by "looked like Daniels" you mean "looked like an adult male humanoid," then yes. Otherwise, no.

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Daniels body with John Vernon's Voice? No, but your idea is very interesting. However even if they were able to conceive of suchg a thing, I doubt the writers would be able to implement something that clever/confusing (see: Faith of the Heart.)

It would be far less interesting if Silik actually caused the accident. Not to mention more difficult (It's a lightning strike essentially. Not too hard to influence, but one would imagine very difficult to accomplish undetected.) I prefer to think that he negated the problem due to his prescient knowledge of the event. This may heve been to perpetuate some future nefariousness, or not.

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I finally watched this last night, Does anyone else hate these walk through walls stuff. I mean if he could go through the wall why not through the deck underneath him. Pissed me off in the NG episode where Geordie and the girl become out of phase and they go through the walls but not the floors. Especially on a moving ship these people should just fly out the back of the ship as there is no friction to keep them moving with the ship or fiction to give them the power to move themselves though the ship.

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Lee
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John Vernon! THAT'S who the voice sounds like. . . It's been bugging me for ages. Is it actually him who did the voice?

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Here's a thought: this little "save the ship" incident could explain why the NX-01 isn't on the walls in TMP and TNG -- since it was ignominiously destroyed flying into some stellar nursery less than six months into its mission, it wasn't nearly important enough to include on those historical wall-hangings.

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MysteryFutureGuy = James Horan.

MinutiaeMan's theory has certainly been kicking around for a while. Of course, it's still being left unclear (wisely, I think) whether ENT takes place in an alternate timeline to existing Trek thanks either to the events of "Broken Bow" or "Cold Front" or whether the timeline alterations naturally lead to the 23rd and 24th century we already know putting ENT in the same timeline.

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John Vernon would be better, though. Imagine it now:


"Greg, what is the worst ship in this fleet?"

"Well that would be hard to say, sir. They're each outstanding in their own way."

"Cut the horseshit, son. I've got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole cargohold of fizzies into Lake Armstrong? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the Admiral's Banquet? Every Halloween, the drydocks are filled with underwear. Every refit, the toilets explode."

"You're talking about Enterprise, sir."

"Of COURSE I'm talking about Enterprise, you TWERP!"

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Ryan McReynolds
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It may be unclear in fans' minds, but it's not being left unclear by Berman and Braga... they have always indicated that Enterprise is supposed to take place in the "main" Star Trek universe. That's why, for instance, Braga agonized in an interview over visual contact with Romulans being a continuity violation. They routinely state that they're trying to make things fit, and would only break established continuity if they had a very good reason... whether or not they achieve that is, of course, a different story.

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