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In Broken Bow it seemed that the Starfleet admirals had 4 sleeve stripes on their uniform, but now I watched "Shadows of P'Jem" and got a closer look. In fact they are using the same sleeve stripe-system as TOS admirals did. It's amazing that they payed attention to this detail.
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I didn't notice the sleeve stripes...but I'll have to go back and look.
I can't say I particularly care for the Admirals Uniforms in Enterprise. DS9's episode "Past Tense" established that, in the 2020's neckties sort of disappeared and were placed with a cool psuedo-bow tie wrap around deal. It looked futuristic without being a vast departure. Now, I'm not saying it's a continuity issue or anything...fashion can be cyclical, but I would have preferred to see something along those lines if they were going to introduce ties into the uniforms.
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I would have loved those ties as well, or perhaps something completely different again. But the military has always been conservative with the dress code... Perhaps the good Admiral wears a more futuristic neck ornament when off duty.
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I should think that the more enlightened humanity of the 22nd century would have gotten rid of the dumb things...
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I don't think they've ever said specifically that he's the chief of Starfleet, though one could assume that's true since he's was in charge of selecting the captain of Enterprise, probably Starfleet's biggest mission since ships started leaving the Sol System.
Another thing I just don't dig about the uniforms is the collars. "Past Tense" also gave us collarless shirts and jackets. Every other Starfleet Uniform we've seen continues that trend of having no fold-over collars... This almost seems too present day for me...
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Any theories why admirals have red-white as division color and not gold-white?
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I think the stripes on the chest of the admiral's uniform are blue, gold, and red...representing all the division colors. It just looks like red and white in that photo.
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IIRC, Starbase Commodores tended to have red shirts, no? Stocker and Stone wore red, but Mendez and Tracy wore gold. Perhaps there's a distinction between starblase commanders and those who command(ed) starships.
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I suspect many of the designers spent a fair amount of time going through old TOS eps, mainly to get ideas rather than out of some policy of getting in as many TOS-friendly details they possibly could. . .