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MinutiaeMan
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Spoilers for what is said will be the tenth episode of the season!

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http://www.trektoday.com/news/240902_03.shtml

I'm tempted to recant my previous vow not to insult Berman and Braga. THIS is their idea of a "fresh and exciting" Star Trek series? A transporter accident is about as fresh as a gallon of milk that's been left out in the sun all day! And the victim is turned invisible? Gee, where have I heard THAT one before?

*sigh*

(Counts to ten, slowly...)

I will NOT hurl insults. I will NOT write expletives. I will NOT...

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The_Tom
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I'm none too impressed either.

It seems especially weird considering Braga's gone on at some length about how he was none-to-proud of the eps like "Oasis" that squeaked out last year with unoriginal plots; going so far, IIRC, as to say that he was actively trying to weed out potential rehashes early in the development process this year, before time pressures kick in and they simply have to go with them.

(shameless optimist notes: The possibility did cross my mind that TPTB have finally played their ace and set us up the bomb that they've publically ruminated over for years, namely releasing dud casting info [I'm pretty certain most spoilers these days are being cribbed from casting stuff] in the hopes of fucking with the online news cabal. But that's my nattery don't-violently-hate-people-you-don't-know apologist side kicking in. Ignore it at will.)

Or they're just working on a terribly unoriginal episode. In which case I'll reserve judgement till I see the finished but mutter grumpily until then all the same. It's not even like the fans really loved "The Next Phase."

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the next phase had too many problems to be good. how the hell did they stand on the non-phased floor, or breathe the non-phased air? has some good scened, though.
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Yeah, I know it's just a rumor at this point. But I've been reading Trek Today for three years now, and they've rarely been wrong when publishing pre-production details.

That's the thing that annoys me the most, though. Berman and Braga have been bragging for a year now that Enterprise is going to be fresh and new, that it's going to reinvent the franchise. Braga's commented on the "poopy" episodes -- and in that interview he specifically referred to "misfired concepts."

Well, if the report on this episode premise is even halfway accurate, this misfired concept is going to blow up on the launching pad.

*grumbles*

Transporter accident. "Fresh ideas," my ass...

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Lee
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Bloody hell. They do the "Oh, look, I'm totally invisible and no-one can hear me but if I thrust my hand through a piece of electrical equipment it short-circuits!" routine! I've seen that so many times, I'm having trouble remembering (or distinguishing between) them all! Seven Days. . . an Outer Limits ep. . .

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One of the many reasons why I am not even bothering to give Enterprise a chance. Besides, it's on a horrible timeslot: Law and Order or Enterprise, what should I choose?

Yes, I know, newer eps are on once a week on Wednesdays, I'm still trying to find a channel that will broadcast L&O every day....

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doesn't A&E show law and order every day?
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Obviously, you missed Tahna's thread. The Superstation or TBS or one of those bought exclusive rights to Law & Order.

Er. Wasn't there an L&O spin-off before SVU that failed and was cancelled?

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First of Two
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1. "Early script." Obviously, this little phrase has gotten by most of you. Didn't you learn anything from reading the various Companions and interviews and such about script development?

I'm just saying it's a bit early to form opinions about a show that hasn't even finished being written yet.

2. There's obviously more going on than simple invisibility here. Reread.

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yeah, according to the A&E website, law and order no longet plays on that station. too bad if *gag* tbs got their hands on it.
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quote:
Originally posted by First of Two:
[QB]1. "Early script." Obviously, this little phrase has gotten by most of you. Didn't you learn anything from reading the various Companions and interviews and such about script development?

I'm just saying it's a bit early to form opinions about a show that hasn't even finished being written yet.

Yes, if you reread MY post, I do mention that it's still apparently in the preliminary stages, and only a rumor. But like I said, Trek Today has been pretty reliable for most of these kinds of reports.
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2. There's obviously more going on than simple invisibility here. Reread.
Why yes, there IS more going on than simple invisibility.
  • Crewmember(s) turn invisible in a transporter accident, can walk through walls but not fall through the floor.
  • Evil aliens try to sabotage the ship.
  • Funeral scene and/or characters react to the appareant death(s).
  • The invisible crewmember(s) discover that if they stick their hands in stuff, they can signal their comrades and let them realize that they're alive.
Hopefully this should sound familiar? We're on a Star Trek board, after all. [Wink]
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Ryan McReynolds
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I have a feeling "Vanishing Point" will be Enterprise's "Threshold."

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But even as ridiculous as "Threshold" was, at least its plot wasn't a rip-off of an episode from a previous series.

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The_Tom
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Then again, I'd have preferred Threshold if it were a ripoff of a previous series' show. Except, perhaps, a ripoff of "And the Children Shall Lead" or something.

The horror.

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please don't mention and the children will... *BARF*
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