That bit about the Borg transmission that will take 200 years to reach the Delta Quadrant is...cool.
Of course, doesn't that make the whole Borg threat one big causality loop? (Borg attack Earth --> Enterprise-E follows them back in time to stop them from screwing w/the past --> Drones are left behind in the Arctic --> Drones awaken and try to assimilate stuff --> Drones send a transmission containing frequencies of pulsars near Earth --> Transmission reaches Borg 200 years later and motivates Borg to attack Earth...)
Anyway, for some reason I feel better about this whole Borg bit now.
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I don't.
1) A transmission that doesn't degrade along tens of thousands of lightyears?
2) A transmission that takes two centuries to reach Borg HQ? That's, like, snail's pace as far as subspace speeds go.
4) Last but certainly not least, the cube in system J-25 wasn't specifically headed for Earth until Q dangled a suckulent carrot in front of it. Then there's the neutral zone incident hinting at early Borg presence... but if attacking Earth was their alleged motivation, why didn't they?
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quote:Originally posted by Cartmaniac: 3) 2153 + 200 = 2353 = twelve years early. Inaccuracy != T'Pol.
I think "200" is a round figure.
quote:4) Last but certainly not least, the cube in system J-25 wasn't specifically headed for Earth until Q dangled a suckulent carrot in front of it. Then there's the neutral zone incident hinting at early Borg presence... but if attacking Earth was their alleged motivation, why didn't they?
I thought Q knew the Borg were coming and he did Picard & co a favor by revealing it to them in advance.
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quote:Fortunately Phlox's physiology is somehow resist to the Borg nanoprobes and he begins developing a treatment to expell them from his body.
This is known by the phrase "they've written themselves into a corner." Or are we supposed to think that the Denobulans have something in common with Species 8472?
Granted, the hints we've heard from early on suggested that Denobulans were absent from the 24th century because they became reclusive or disappeared for some reason, and that could explain why the Borg never heard of them. But the Borg would never have heard of most of the species they encounter and can assimilate them without any problems -- again, Species 8472 being the only exception.
I suppose that we shouldn't be surprised that Braga is contradicting his own canon now.
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quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: This is known by the phrase "they've written themselves into a corner." Or are we supposed to think that the Denobulans have something in common with Species 8472?
Granted, the hints we've heard from early on suggested that Denobulans were absent from the 24th century because they became reclusive or disappeared for some reason, and that could explain why the Borg never heard of them. But the Borg would never have heard of most of the species they encounter and can assimilate them without any problems -- again, Species 8472 being the only exception.
I suppose that we shouldn't be surprised that Braga is contradicting his own canon now.
You seem to be overlooking the fact that if the Borg in this episode are blown up, (as the article states they will be) then the Collective will never know about Denobulans until they come to the the Alpha/Beta Quadrant in the 24th century. (And at that time, it seems there aren't any Denobulans around. )
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quote:You seem to be overlooking the fact that if the Borg in this episode are blown up, (as the article states they will be) then the Collective will never know about Denobulans until they come to the the Alpha/Beta Quadrant in the 24th century. (And at that time, it seems there aren't any Denobulans around.
Yes, but what I'm saying is that it shouldn't matter. The 24th-century nanoprobes -- at least those from "First Contact" (and later, but that's not relevant here) are for the "one-size-fits-all" kind of assimilation. It was considered shocking in the extreme that there was a species that the Borg couldn't assimilate in "Scorpion."
Okay, so Phlox has a really long tongue, freaky toenails, and very flexible facial muscles. I fail to see any indication that his body chemistry is that radically different from your average humanoid's -- and actually a few suggestions that his physiology is otherwise similar in many ways, like his need for the space suit in "The Crossing." Even Spock would've lasted in a CO2-rich atmosphere for a little while.
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quote:Granted, the hints we've heard from early on suggested that Denobulans were absent from the 24th century because they became reclusive or disappeared for some reason
They'll become the Cardassians. You'll see.
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So, um... How does T'Pol know where the Borg homeworld is? I mean, one has to know how far away something is before one can predict the amount of time something will take to get there...
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Interesting point. And, assuming that this entire series isn't erased in a temporal incursion in the series finale, it's a wonder that no one on the Enterprise-D had ever heard of bionic zombies that were found on Earth in the 2150's and attacked Earth's first explorer starship...
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Probably for the same reason none of the androids encountered in TOS were never once mentioned in TNG and beyond, and Data was always this unique mindblowing concept of advanced technology....
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Well, in all fairness, Data was built by humans. The androids from, say, "I, Mudd" were built by super-advanced aliens from another galaxy, IIRC. So Data would be considered much more of an accomplishment.
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Plus, they were hardly of the same order of complexity. Data was to all intents and purposes human, while the Mudd androids were confused to destruction by input that my digital watch could have figured out.
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