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Fabrux
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Well, I think fandom has the Mirror Universe sprouting off because Khan won the Eugenics Wars... So maybe genetically enhanced humans aren't that rare.
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Omega
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Ezri, I don't think was ever called Dax so I don't think she ever had it either.

I have a vague recollection of her objecting to being called Dax. But mirror Ezri was only in one incredibly bad episode, anyway, so I may be misremembering.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Ezri wasn't a Dax. (ref. "The Emperor's New Cloak" [DS9])

And no, it was never called "the Mirror Universe" in dialogue. Not sure where the Okudas got that. After they popularized that term, it was used in one script for DS9, but not in the dialogue.

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AndrewR
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I don't reckon that Bashir has had his genetic enhancement... he's just matured naturally albeit probably delayed... something that his parents feared wasn't going to happen. Again it's a nice tie in to the 5th season idea fitting in nicely with Bashir things from earlier seasons.

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AndrewR
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Did we ever see a Mirror Universe Morn?

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TSN
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"Not sure where the Okudas got that."

Probably because the TOS episode that introduced it was called "Mirror, Mirror".

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Yes, but it was never referred to as "the Mirror Universe" (or even "a mirror universe") in said episode. Unless I missed it.

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In the scripts it was referred to as "the Mirror universe".

In "Crossover" it was moreless defined as 'the other side' (ala "your side" or "our side").

In "Through the Looking Glass": Sisko referred to it as "the same parallel universe that two of my crewmembers visited a year ago".

In "Shattered Mirror": Sisko again referred to it as "the parallel universe". O'Brien referred to it "the alternate universe".

In "Resurrection": MirrorBariel twice refers to it as "the alternate universe". Also, the device used to scramble the transporter to go between universes is called a "multidimensional transporter device".

In "The Emperors New Cloak": Zek says "I'm in the Alternate Universe!"

So from that we can say, yes, "the Mirror universe" was not spoken on screen but it was referred to as such in the scripts - and "alternate" and "parallel" universe can be used interchangably....

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It is never refered to as the Mirror Universe in dialoge, but because it is such a close mirror of the Star Trek universe, albeit twisted, the term Mirror Universe just makes sence. Like you would call a universe full of dinosaurs, the Dinosaur Universe. So along those lines, it really should be called the Broken Mirror Universe or something like that.
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I know it was mentioned before - when the episode aired - but what about the big muck up of basing an entire story around the Mirror Universe not having cloaking technology - when in "Shattered Mirror"? The Klingons and Cardassians - i'm guessing the Bajorans too (members of the Alliance) have cloaking technology.

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They didn't have any cloaks in "Shattered Mirror". At the beginning of "Through the Looking Glass", Klingon and Cardassian ships decloak, but they aren't said to "decloak" during dialogue. And TPTB said that it was a visual mistake.

As far as Trek mistakes go, it's really not that big. One (quick) SFX shot in an episode that aired 4 years previous.

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The whole bit about the cloak could be that the one that they stole was far more advanced than what the Alliance had.

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True.

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quote:
Like you would call a universe full of dinosaurs, the Dinosaur Universe.
Or you could have a universe with no shrimp.
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Jason Abbadon
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Yes, but would it still have Jambalya?
Or a Crab Nebula?

You could call it....The Jumboverse.

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