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AndrewR
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Just looking here to see that they aren't using an orchestra anymore in scoring Trek!

This is wrong, very wrong.

The Simpsons and Star Trek were the last bastions of orchestral scores on TV. Now I guess it's just the Simpsons. [Mad]

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Wes
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I honestly don�t mind and cant really tell the difference. We've gotten to the point where we can get pretty damn close to a faithful reproduction of all the instruments necessary, and if you are going to have to cut a budget somewhere, I would probably start there too.

Also, that forum is a pile of shit. "you can't post email messages unless you have the consent of the sender"

Someone knows nothing about internet law.

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PsyLiam
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Someone knows nothing about being polite, either.

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Mucus
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Weird, I doubt that Enterprise's budget has been cut past, well, Babylon 5 levels. But even they could afford a partially orchestrated (sic?) soundtrack. If that post is correct and "everything is done electronically" thats pretty sad.

Then again, TV Star Trek has never made the best use of its orchestra so, meh. (e.g. from Voyager, I'd be hard pressed to hum a single theme other than the open credits)

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That's why they need to do like the "Dukes of Hazzard" did and use Waylon Jennings!!

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TSN
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"(e.g. from Voyager, I'd be hard pressed to hum a single theme other than the open credits)"

If it makes you feel better, I couldn't even do that much.

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AndrewR
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No? The music and visuals of the Voyager credits are very beautiful.

I remember when I first saw "Caretaker" that opening was so cool - me and my friends rewound it to watch it again! (We got to see the first episode just about a week after it's premier in the States in early 1995. (Which was pretty good for Australia then - the friend was on his way back home after being on holiday there).

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PsyLiam
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I agree. Voyager's titles were good. Although I did always prefer the Deep Space Nine theme. It felt a bit more original.
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Originally posted by Mucus:
Weird, I doubt that Enterprise's budget has been cut past, well, Babylon 5 levels. But even they could afford a partially orchestrated (sic?) soundtrack. If that post is correct and "everything is done electronically" thats pretty sad.

Babylon 5 was a bit weird though. I always got the feeling that the Orchestra was paid directly out of Chris Franke's salary, for some reason. And even then, I don't think that he used more than maybe 7 or 8 musicians at once. And they weren't even in the same room.

Star Trek, on the other hand, had either the largest or second largest orchestra on TV. That's going to eat into the budget.

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The last time I heard the VOY theme was probably the original airing of "Endgame".
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Mucus
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Hmmm, trying to find some information.
According to this Star Trek used about 43 musicians on a regular basis.
Babylon 5 looks to use about 20 on a regular basis. It also looks like the only big geographical split is Christopher Franke in the States and the rest of the orchestra in Berlin.

The only mention of salary comes in with musicians in Berlin being cheaper than in the States, which makes sense.

Further down in the thread, the original poster indicates that it looks like about half of the scores from this point on in Enterprise will be fully electronic. No word on whether the actual size of the orchestra has been cut for the remaining episodes.

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"And they weren't even in the same room."

It often sounded like they were all in the same synthesizer, though.

OH SNAP!

(Dying Station is the best episode track ever.)

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Amen.

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What about Stargate's scores - they always sound impressive - mostly composed by Joel Goldsmith (Jerry's son - also did some work on First Contact). Do they use an orchestra?
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Wes
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yes. that reminds me. where the eff is my best of season 1 soundtrack.
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Mucus
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Actually, I cannot find a good source for this either way. However, there are a fair number of soundtrack reviews that state that the first season SG1 soundtrack was mostly synth with only the opening and end titles being performed with an orchestra.
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