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Bones McCoy
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Firstly, I just wanna say I'm from South Africa, so we've only gotten the first two seasons of Enterprise, so please bear with me if what I'm about to say is bullcrap.

The 'Stealth technology' on ENT looks just like 'modern' cloaking technology. I was thinking that since this stealth tech is less sophisticated than cloaking as we know it, wouldn't it be more believable if the ships in question didn't completely vanish, but, rather like today's stealth bombers, just confuse other vessels' sensors. after all, at the distances dealt with in Star Trek, they wouldn't rely much on visual tags, but rather on sensors. If the ships just camoflaged themselves, and scrambled sensors, it would be a cool precursor to cloaking as we know it.

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Well, the Xyrillian ship in "Unexpected" definitely had a cloaking device, and the Suliban have them as well, although theirs may come from the future. Oh yeah, and the Romulans too... [Roll Eyes]

By the way, this sounds like a thread that should be in the Starships & Technology forum.

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Well in season three the Gorn are in almost every episode, but their stealth technology prevents them from being seen.


...only my tinfoil beanie allows me to see them: they are everywhere!
Beware!

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Right, I know that 'stealth technology' is cloaking, just like a 'phase pistol' is a phaser, but my point is that it looks just like cloaking, when it's meant to be more primitive. I just think the producers should have put more thought into it, rather than have 'modern' Trek technology in the wrong time frame.

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Are you suggesting that every intelligent species has to develop at the same rate or it breaks your suspension of disbelief? Because it seems to me that the rational point of view is just the opposite.
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Tacking on what Simon has said, are you also suggesting that every intelligent species also has to be at the same level of technology?

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Yes, by all means, gang up on the newb. Along the way, completely overlook the fact that 50% of his two examples involved EARTH technology. I'm sure he'll feel very encouraged to share his thoughts some more.


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So, uh, expressing confusion with where someone is coming from with an argument is "ganging up on" him or her? Well, good to know, I suppose. I guess I am opposed to the way the NX-01 was given a cloaking device after all.
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Sol System
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OK, so this sounds a bit more snippy than I might like, but I stand by my sentiment.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
OK, so this sounds a bit more snippy than I might like, but I stand by my sentiment.

My point. I know if I were Bones' shoes I'd be feeling quite...snipped. Had you instead said "I disagree, because _______" I would not have found fault.

But then, maybe I'm just an oversensitive girly-girl who's still traumatized by the first day of kindergarten.


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But ya know, he said, "The 'Stealth technology' on ENT looks just like 'modern' cloaking technology." Re-read if you need to. He said ENT, not Enterprise, so he's talking about the show, not the ship, nor Starfleet.

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MarianLH
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He used phase pistols as his other example, and I said "50% of his two examples."

Besides, whether he's right or wrong isn't the point. It was the manner in which he was disagreed with that I objected to, not the substance.


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Okay, but he's still assuming that phase pistols = phasers, when they are not.

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Phase pistols are of course completely different in the same way that G. W. Bush is a completely different kind of leader to Saparmurat Niyazov. [Razz]

It's the same trick they've been pulling through the whole show - give it a slightly different name and suddenly it's not the same tech from hundreds of years hence it's completely different. Or with races like the Borg and Ferengi - just don't fracking mention their names and everything's cool! [Roll Eyes]

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Sol System
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1.) Only my second response is "angry," in my opinion.

2.) I'm only concerned with the cloaking device comments.

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