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Odd, I personally thought that Tigh was one of the more conventional and hence dullest characters. I mean we've already covered the dysfunctional drunk territory before and his rivalry with Starbuck (another one of the more dull characters IMHO) isn't that interesting either.
I'd have to say that the most interesting characters for me would be Baltar, especially since his character is setting up all sorts of problems that will come back and bit everyone in the ass (including him). But at the same time, he's the first villain in a while that I find myself rooting for usually, which is odd. He also gets some of the best dialogue.
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Baltar's not really a villain though, is he?
I mean, sure, he's indirectly responsible for allowing the Cylons to breech Colonial defenses, but isn't like Baltar knew how or why he was being used.
He's a quasi-villain in how his attempts to keep himself out of suspicion he has schemed and plotted - most notably in urging Pres. Roslin to order the destruction of that stray liner in "33" -- a liner which just happened to carry someone claiming to know who sabotauged Colonial defenses (and, yes, there's someone else in the fleet who knew what that guy knew).
But even with his plotting and scheming and what not, Baltar is quite clearly only barely holding onto his sanity. He sees Number Six as a physical being that he can interact with, and obeys her commands. Is she the real Number Six, in some sort of "only Baltar can see me hologram?" or the embodiment of Baltar's guilty psyche trying to keep him out of the brig - I was leaning towards the latter, but by the end of the season, it is sort of apparent that if she isn't real, that Baltar has some sort of psychic connection with the plot twists of the Galactica world, as it is hard for him to know what Six tells him without some contact with the Cylons.
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I will add that I did not like Enterprise. I will not say my reasons for they are all the generic reasons why fans did not like the series. I feel sad for those fans who did enjoy it because just because I did not like the series, I am glad that many others did. I have seen throughout the thread that people have written how could have E been canceled when Voy, Insurrection, and Nemesis were able to run thier full course. I will say though that I liked Voy quite a bit but like all other trek series' it did have episodes that sucked and I also enjoyed Insurrection quite a bit. Nemesis had great potential but the heads at Paramount and Trek missed the target. Enterprise was the same, it had the potential to be another great Trek series and it did have great episodes but the bad ones seemed to outnumber the good ones. It is sad that the fans, like me, did not flock to the series but as a fan I do not take blame in this because I gave it many chances and it was not just my Trek and many in my area feel the same way. Still much sadness because there will be no more new Trek.
Long live Star Trek and may the Enterprise fly again!
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I do hope that Flare does go on. Trek in my area is somewhat rigor mortis (call Grissom!)so this is practically the only outlet that I have to talk Trek with others.
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I'd say now that Flare members will have lots of time to sort out the DVD collections after NX-01 goes into the drydock for the last time. Flare will go on, so will Trek as it did when The Original Series went off the air... this time though it's going to continue alongside porn in cyberspace.
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Personally, I am highly anticipating Enterprise on DVD. As I have bitched many times before, I have missed most of the last two seasons due to UPNs 5 mile broadcast radius around here! I've live in teh same fucking county and it is broadcast from and I still can't pick it up...er, well that, and my being a cheapass and not getting cable, being the other reason I've missed so much.
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quote:Originally posted by Mucus: Odd, I personally thought that Tigh was one of the more conventional and hence dullest characters. I mean we've already covered the dysfunctional drunk territory before and his rivalry with Starbuck (another one of the more dull characters IMHO) isn't that interesting either.
It's not the "drunk" aspect I found intresting- it was his indicision in a crisis (and Adama's jumping on him for it) that I think shows potential.
Not everyone in a leadership role steps up to plate....some really tank. In Tigh's case, it seemed they could go either way.
As to "already covered": we've all seen pretty much all the Galactica templates before. It's how they (hopefully) manage to make the generic characters distinctive through the actor's abilities and the writers development of the character that will determine if the show is worthwhile in the long run.
Strangely, that why I loved Enterprise. ...okay, Travis and Hoshi went no where but Reed, Trip, Archer, T'Pol, Phlox, Soval and even that- forget his name- MACO leader all became believable and intresting to me. I even found Futureguy and Daniels enjoiable.
I'll miss them.
Yes, I know the MACO guy died.
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Hey, you know whats funny? They moved Enterprise to Friday because it couldn't compeate with American Idol. Now American Idol starts... and they moved it to 9
Wait, thats not funny at all
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Yes, this pattern of sudden timeslot death has been known to run in the family -- apparently it's only passed down along the bastard stepchild lines
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: She's hot, frothy, and everyone's slurped from her rim?
You've described her perfectly.
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I got a reply from UPN after posting a query/message about them cancelling Enterprise. I was suprised to have received one, actually. This is the reply:
quote: Viewer Services (UPN) [[email protected]] Subject: All good things...
Hello,
Thank you for writing to UPN. The STAR TREK legacy has spanned nearly four decades and has spawned five television series. Ten years ago, STAR TREK: VOYAGER was instrumental in helping launch UPN.
The latest incarnation, STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE, has reached the culmination of its journey. This painstaking decision came after it was recognized that despite having many loyal fans like you, the audience for the show was declining steadily. Therefore, ENTERPRISE is set to decommission and will be given a grand send-off on Friday, May 13th at 8 PM ET/PT on UPN.
This does not mean that STAR TREK is gone forever. Paramount, the studio that produced all five television series and ten feature films, is looking forward to the next chapter of the STAR TREK saga.
We know that this information may not make you feel any better but we want you to know how much we appreciate your input and we sincerely hope that you will continue to share your thoughts with us in the future.
Cordially, UPN Viewer Services
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