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PsyLiam
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Because to do otherwise would result in 90% of the viewing public going "there was a big eugenics war 10 years ago? Did I sleep though it, or sumink?"

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AndrewR
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There was - the media just didn't cover it.
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Omega
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The US wasn't involved, why would they? [Smile]

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I think it's quite conceivable to twist the Bosnian/Serbian war and the various genocides in Africa (Rwanda, Burundi) and come up with a nice Eugenics War.
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quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
Because to do otherwise would result in 90% of the viewing public going "there was a big eugenics war 10 years ago? Did I sleep though it, or sumink?"

I think you got it the other way around - I'm saying that the Trekverse is not our universe, and asking why other people insist in trying to invent explanations to cover for all the noticeable differences between them (as, precisely, the Eugenics Wars, among other things).

Edit: (Or are you tring to imply that people is so dumb that they would understand it the other way around?)

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Omega
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HerbShrump: Slobodan Milo�ević is a genetic superman, then?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=4150406&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1

I guess both the picture of T'Pol in miniskirt and the other with Archer and Maywetaher are aboard the Avenger?
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AndrewR
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A good point for divergence of the Trek universe with our own is the discontinuation/downgrading of the space program!

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Some interesting news:
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Shatner pitched the storyline to Coto, Brannon Braga and Rick Berman, only to discover that the latter had a different alternate universe pitch developed by Sussman in which Shatner would play Chef, an ancestor of Kirk whom time-traveler Daniels wanted to use to replace the real Kirk at an important event when Kirk went missing. "We pitched this to Shatner and there was a long silence," said Coto.
http://www.trektoday.com/news/170305_02.shtml

What? Shatner, the creator of Star Trek 5 was struck dumb by a silly story idea? My entire worldview has been upturned.

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Mars Needs Women
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Hmm...I see that tank tops are the equivalent of veils for women in the MU.

Anyways, that storyline with MU Kirk didn't make any sense. What the fuck is a tantulus field?
And why would Daniels replace Kirk with one of his ancestors since Daniels runs the risk that this ancestor could get killed, thus preventing Kirk from being born in the first place?

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Sol System
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"What the fuck is a tantulus field?"

The plot device around which much of the action in that first episode revolved?

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Mars Needs Women
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Oh wait, now I know what it is. It was that device used to kill people. I thought the article was referring to the tantalus insane asylum.
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HerbShrump
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Shatner's story pitch, suprisingly, sounds much better than the one where he'd be Chef. Gets an aged "Kirk" back to ENT timeline. The only part I'm confused about is how Tiberius discovers the universe has changed.

I understand it that he's back in time. Therefore it doesn't need to be changed or different.

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MinutiaeMan
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To go back to the discussion point about the MU possibly having diverged at First Contact because of the TNG crew's presence, I find that extremely unlikely. For one thing, although their presence certainly altered events from Cochrane's perspective, I always got the impression that absolutely no one else in the encampment (aside from Lily) knew about the TNG crew being from the future. Therefore, regardless of the TNG crew's presence, "our" universe's Human crowd when the Vulcans landed would have been peaceful and welcoming.

Therefore, the idea of the crowd turning into a mob and attacking the Vulcans and killing them is either just one more divergence in an already divergent universe (going with the idea that the MU is somehow inherently evil or whatever) or else the trigger that sparked the mob happened completely independently of any factor involving the TNG crew's presence.

And all I can say is, thank goodness that Shatner didn't like the idea of playing the Chef. The idea of recruiting an ancestor of Kirk's to impersonate Kirk is one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard of!

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Mikey T
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I like Blalock in the blue TOS outfit... looks as good when Terry Farrell wore the red TOS outfit for the DS9 episode.

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