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I enjoied the episode. While it wasn't great as an Enterprise episode, it was fun to watch.
It was nice to see the D again. It was neat how they tied it in with an exsisting episode. I'm tempted to edit together a "The Pegasus" extended edition.
The death of the baby less than an hour earlier (nuts to commercials) is probably a contributing factor, but I cried during the ending with the TV Enterprises. I'll miss new Trek.
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I mean, sure, there's a lot of "off time" for Riker in "The Pegasus", but his actual change of heart seems to come in those short hours after entering the derelict and before being trapped within the asteroid. Surely "TATV" can't take place in that narrow timeslot!
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The impression I got from "These Are the Voyages..." was that Riker finished his holodeck journey of discovery before the Pegasus had been found in the asteroid. That raises the issue of why Riker, confident in his decision to inform Picard of what was really going on, then waits until disaster struck to finally execute his decision. I do have to wonder if Berman and Braga completely rewatched "The Pegasus" before writing this episode because the two episodes just do not gel very well together.
In "The Pegasus", Riker's decision to rat out Admiral Pressman is spur of the moment. The bridge crew is discussing ways of getting out of their entrapment and the Romulan's offer to beam them off the Enterprise. In the middle of this, Riker spills the beans on the interphasic cloaking device recovered from the Pegasus.
"These Are the Voyages..." doesn't take this into account, which makes me wonder if the writers completely rewatched the episode in the first place. "These Are the Voyages..." ends with Riker saying he's made his decision and that he's on his way to gladly inform Picard of Pressman's and his treaty-breaking secret.
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The last 30 seconds were beautiful. The rest was utter shite.
At least we are now free of the Pretenders to the Throne. The loss of such princes as Manny Coto and Mike Sussman is somewhat offset by that good.
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It's been a long road Getting from there to here It's been a long time But my time is finally near
And I can feel the change in the wind right now Nothing's in my way And they're not gonna hold me down no more No they're not gonna hold me down
'Cause I've got faith of the heart I'm going where my heart will take me I've got faith to believe I can do anything I've got strength of the soul And no one's gonna bend or break me I can reach any star I've got faith, I've got faith, faith of the heart
It's been a long night Trying to find my way Been through the darkness Now I've finally had my day
And I will see my dream come alive at last I will touch the sky And they're not gonna hold me down no more No they're not gonna change my mind
'Cause I've got faith of the heart I'm going where my heart will take me I've got faith to believe I can do anything I've got strength of the soul And no one's gonna bend or break me I can reach any star I've got faith, I've got faith, faith of the heart
I know that we're so cold We've seen the darkest days But now the winds I feel Are only winds of change I've been through the fire I've been through the rain But I'll be fine, oh yeah
'Cause I've got faith of the heart I'm going where my heart will take me I've got faith to believe I can do anything I've got strength of the soul And no one's gonna bend or break me I can reach any star I've got faith, I've got faith, faith of the heart
It's been a long road...
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Beyond the rim of the star-light My love Is wand'ring in star-flight I know He�ll find in star-clustered reaches Love, Strange love a starwoman teaches. I know His journey ends never His star trek Will go on forever. But tell him While he wanders his starry sea Remember, remember me.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: At least we are now free of the Pretenders to the Throne. The loss of such princes as Manny Coto and Mike Sussman is somewhat offset by that good.
Are we? there is a movie in planning, yes? for the Rom War, with nujb crew? is Beener & Beener masterbating over this one?
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Berman has been involved in the pre-production stages but it is likely that most of the major work on the film will take place after his contract expires, or so I've heard. Braga (by far, the worst of the pair) has had absolutely nothing to do with it.
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This reminds me that we never have to hear that song again, too.
My response needs to be heavy on profanity, as it involves Brannon Braga, who I heard was born when Satan had an abortion and then it walked around in a sewer, but not the clean ones from the Ninja Turtles, but both of my attempts so far have been unsatisfying, so I'll just say that I wholly agree that we need another Star Trek film like Nemesis, with hip new writers and directors, rather than anything like any Star Trek film that other loathsome person had something to do with, because his track record there is the worst of anyone!
If I ever had to watch any Star Trek movie Brannon Braga cowrote I'd kill myself!
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Well, I will take any reply that uses "vex" (as opposed to "I find incredibly annoying") as a sort of compliment. But, to sum my position up in a more straightforward manner: 1.) Attacks on Braga are just way, way, way over the top. 2.) Of modern Star Trek movies, his are probably the best. (I guess Generations might be controversial, but I think I enjoy it more than Insurrection or Nemesis, even though Nemesis does have neat explosions. But I'm willing to accept that my feelings may be colored by adolescent nostalgia.)
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I'd agree with that, actually. Generations main problem is that it's a bit underwhelming when it shouldn't be (the death of Kirk), whereas Nemesis' problems are caused by a horrible feeling of disjointedness related to either bad editing or bad scripting.
I've watched Generations a few times, and it still has enough parts that resonate with me (the first shot of the Ent-B, Kirk's first "death", the battle with the BOP [yes, Riker's an idiot, but still], the crash, Picard's grief at losing his family, and even the humour work much better than they did in Insurrection and Nemesis [despite Insurrection being "the funny one"]).
So, yeah, I would also put Generations above Insurrection and Nemesis.
On the other hand, I like that song. So me an Simon are obviously heading for some kind of confrontation. IN THE RING!
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I would have to find a way of turning his main asset into his ultimate weakness. Perhaps with the aid of some cabbage.
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