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Saltah'na
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It appears that King Abdullah of Jordan is a fan of Star Trek. I was perusing through TV Guide's Star Trek 30th Anniversary issue. Then-Prince Abdullah was featured in an article talking about famous people playing roles on Star Trek. The article goes further in stating that Abdullah had a cameo role in the opening scene of the Voyager ep "Investigations".

It also says that Abdullah is a Star Trek Memorabilia collector, he owns an original Kirk uniform autographed by William Shatner. The article ends off with a quote from him saying "The Younger Generations find Star Trek very appealing. It has a good message, a Federation policy of non-interference. It shows a time when the world comes together".

I've passed through the article many times before. It's only today that I finally made the connection.

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Aethelwer
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"Federation policy of non-interference"

Yeah, like with the Klingon civil war, or the Bak'u/Son'a thing (what's with those apostrophes?), or... :P

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Hobbes
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Probably because they're the same race and Son'a is a word derived from the Ba'ku language.

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Aethelwer
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No, I mean, what purpose do they serve?

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To annoy people?

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Frank: Perhaps the same purpose as apostrophes in transliterations of Russian words (some sort of palatization, I think), or perhaps the apostrophes in Klingon transliterations (a glottal stop), or perhaps some other sound that couldn't be easily represnted by any letter in the Roman alphabet?

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Aethelwer
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That's what I thought at first, but you'd be able to hear glottal stops or palatizations (especially with an n, a, or u). It can't be an aspiration marker either, since you can't aspirate an n or a.

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Harry
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It just looks alien

Baku sounds like an Indian dish
Sona sounds like a cheap car or a shampoo

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Frank: You would be able to hear the sounds if they were pronounced correctly. But since when does anyone pronounce anything correctly on Trek? I mean, to hear Kira talk, 'k' is pronounced like 'g', and vice versa (i.e. the "USS Agaki"), or someone from "Interface" might win a Noble Prize (as derived from the USS Nobel). And, of course, you have all the Klingon stuff. Even the word "Klingon" itself is supposedly actually "thlingan", but no-one pronouces it that way because people are lazy and reduce foreign words to the easiest facsimile they can pronounce, given what they're used to in their own language. Why do you think children go to "kinder-garden", or people make allusions to the goddesses "Afro-dye-tea" and "Uh-thee-huh"?

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Aethelwer
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Fine, but I would at least expect the Ba'ku and so on to pronounce the name correctly. Besides, Klingon is even spelled that way for us.

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Well, as I was trying to point out, even the Klingons onscreen don't pronounce Klingonese correctly. The fallibility is in the human (and primarily American) actors, not in the characters.

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