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God, I forgot how DIFFERENT TNG's premiere season was! Besides the cosmetic changes among the crew -- LaForge at Conn instead of Engineering, Lt. Yar alive, and Worf as a "bridge officer" not Security Chief (not to mention Riker sans beard) ...
I forgot how almost every episode, the Enterprise sends an away team to a planet or starship. Usually consisting of Riker, Data, and Yar, with LaForge or Worf sometimes accompanying them.
I forgot how CORNY it was! The main theme playing as the Enterprise warps off whichever way. Etc., etc.
The larger sense of "family", which would be missing in later eps -- for example, Riker hurrying two little children out of the Observation Lounge where they are playing ("The Last Outpost"), and the first impressions of the Ferengi, from the same ep.
The Anticans and the Selay -- god, those two races were fun. Looks like O'Brien was a security officer at one point -- during "Lonely Among Us" he got caught up between members of the two races.
The First Season was argueably the closest to TOS that TNG would ever come -- of course, it was trying hard to keep in TOS's shadow at this point, especially with eps like "Naked Now" (a blatant rip-off of a TOS episode), and "The Last Outpost" which had the crew caught in a very TOSy situation (unknown power drain, crew about to die.)
And, of course, it had it's good points too. "Heart of Glory", for one. Who can forget this exchange:
"But for all you say, where are the words, 'honor, duty, loyalty', without which a warrior is nothing!"
"I do not care WHAT you look like! You are NO Klingon!"
"Perhaps not." ::zzaap!::
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That elevator was seen in quite a few TNG eps ...
Those skirt uniforms looked especially ridiculous when men were wearing 'em.
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During the first season of TNG, the writers seemed to have the "let's have our crew beam down to a hostile planet-of-the-week and meet aliens that noboby cares about and who we'll never see again" syndrome that was prevalent in TOS. I believe that no matter what people were saying about how the show was not trying to be a carbon-copy of the original, at this early stage no one really kmew the direction the show should take, so they resorted to the TOS "tried and true" method.
It was only in the third & fourth seasons that the writers focused more on the character development instead of the planet of the week shtick (as they rightly should - why would anyone care about a television show if they didn't care about the characters?)
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I'd like to see the Anticans and Selay again, though ...
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It is amazing how much that show changed during its run, DS9 underwent a similar drastic change, too. Only VOY is still pretty much the same now as it was back in '95, unlike the other series (which all featured a turning point - TNG had Yesterday's Enterprise, and DS9 The Jem'Hadar ) it has remained quite static.
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I think around season 3 was when Roddenberry died or lost control over TNG, right? That'd explain it's taking the less fleeting route.
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Purrrrr....
It is clear that TPTB as well as fans of both past/present were not comfortable with the gray area's suggesting the ship is not completely military. I for one missed the directness of family and clothing/uniform choices introduced in Season One. Rank and standard uniforms on the bridge represent 'structure'. But this needn't have become the case throughout the series.
Of course we all know that some women needn't be seen wearing skirts. But some men look good in them.
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Roddenberry was essentially little more than a creative consultant by the end of season 2, AFAIK. He didn't die till season 4, though...
Interestingly enough, despite a commendable job done in cosmetically changing back to season 1 TNG for AGT... it's interesting to note how the atmosphere was still very season sevenish. I think the drasticness of the differences from TNG's start to finish were probably not as big as we make them out to be, but were clearly accentuated by the cast and writers getting into a groove with the characters and plots.
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Hey, you forgot to mention the "EXTREME CLOSEUP!!" tendency TNG had in the first season.
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Well, one major difference between the sequences in AGT and EaF is that camera tech had evolved, so the sequences in AGT looked a whole lot better than EaF...
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After seeing that episode where Tasha fights the wife of the African chief, I actually stopped watching TNG for about a year and a half. What an awful episode!! Even "Spock's Brain" was better. I also couldn't stand Troi's overemoting and that Wesley kid. There are still quite a few episodes from the first and second years that I've never seen.
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You know, the kids in the observation lounge during The Last Outpost never made any sense to me. How'd they get there? If a kid walks into a turbolift and says "Battle bridge", would it just take them there?
And also, since it seems the only way to get to the observation lounge is through the bridge, how come Worf or yar didn't notice them walking past?
Actually, the Last Outpost is pretty horrible from start to finish. And very inconsistent even with other season 1 episodes.
The lounge/corridor area (the part that had the big comfy sofas) also dissapeared. Probably because it really did make the Enterprise look like a hotel.
And to be fair, the Naked Now is actually a really entertaining episode. It's fluffy, inconsequental fun, that a/ proves that the original Enterprise was Constitution class 9even if they showed the wrong pic), and b/ that Riker can hold his drink.
Troi's over emoting was pretty awful in season 1 though (although not as bad as the pilot. my god, if she'd done the "Captain...there's...great...pain!" every episode, we'd never have gotten anything done), as was Wesley, who was much more likeable by season 3, and actually had a good sending off in season 4.
The horrible synth music was, well, horrible too. There's one excruciating part in Encounter at Farpoint just before Picard orders saucer seperation where, at a dramatic part, they play a little cheesy synth trumpet version of the main theme. I burst out laughing everytime I hear it.
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The observation lounge has a corridor leading to a ramp down to deck two, no? At least, that's the party line now. I suppose the layout might have been different then. It's been awhile since I've seen any TNG, much less the first season.
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The conference lounge is about a half-level down from the main bridge itself, and the portside doors open onto the rest of deck one proper. Only the starboard doors lead directly onto the bridge.
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