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There was no episode "The Andorian." ::SMACK!::
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We saw the back of a hologram of an Andorian in "The Offspring". According to the Encyclopedia, they were also in "Captain's Holiday". I assume they were in the background on Risa, or something...
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Oh, okay, so we did see the front of the "The Offspring" Andorian. My mistake...
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Well DS9 did like to MENTION their TOS aliens a bit more... Cestus III, Andorians... i.e. The girl that came first in Bashir's year thought Bahshir was an Andorian... and there was that Andorian in the running for that prize... that Doctor's prize.
Anyways re the council scene... YEAH! Every alien... even the Arcturian clones and the Betelgueseans from TMP - but of course like Star Trek V - they could easily touch up the races to make the fit in with the whole feel of TNG era races... i.e. Michael Westmore's work.
We could have our Tellarites, caitians, Andorians, even the human looking races... speaking of which, does anyone think that those guys yelling "Bravo!" at the End of the Star Trek IV were one of those human looking TOS races??? maybe even Deltan? They WERE Bald...
You probably wouldn't have to see every race in DETAIL, but EVERY race would be nice... (well of the races that could possibly be Federation members)
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I don't remember the shot of the andorian in "The Offspring" being like that at all. The last time I watched the ep, i was specifically lokking for the cameo of an andorian. I remember it as sort of a low resolution back shot (it was grainy, not a fully realized human looking holodeck image). While the face may have been visible I really don't think there was that kind of detail visible. Maybe the pic was a behind-the-scenes pic of the actress who played Lal in andorian make up.
That said, I would hope that in any future appearances by the Andorians, they spruce them up a bit. Don't really need to change the basic design, just add a little more care and detail to the makeup, and maybe make the antenae a little more cool looking. I think Farscape provides some excellent examples of how properly applied face paints can look very cool (no ridges required). They don't have to look like a clown whith cheap grease paint slapped on 'em.
Sol: The example of the Tiburonian in DS9 is exactly what aI am talking about. I just think it would be cool to do it more. How many nameless ensigns do they have in the background. They don't all have to be human or in the rare cases vulcan, bajoran, or bolian. They obviously definitely don't like to do guest stars from the obscure old races, so why not a few more cameos.
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I'm pretty sure that shot of the Andorian is a screen capture, straight from the show. It fits with my recollection of the episode, anyway.
As regards the Andorians, one reason to be skeptical about this story description is that it requires some very convincing Andorian makeup. And yet, we've not seen Andorians often since TOS (or even during TOS) for the precise reason that the makeup isn't all that convincing. It seems to me that if they could get good looking Andorians, someone would have done it by now, either in DS9 or elsewhere.
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I don't think that claim holds water. For one thing, we simply didn't see all that many aliens in TOS. Certainly not Federation members. And the two major alien empires from TOS, the Romulans and Klingons, are still major alien empires today.
For another, how would you be able to tell if a nondescript fellow in the background was someone like an Argelian or an Elasian? It was the rare alien in TOS that got any sort of physical markings.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Medusan or two, though. Not that you could actually see them.
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I think it comes down to wanting to be able to see more of the races seen from old Trek TOS or the movies...
there are quite a few when you think about it. (that just don't look like Humans)
the tiburon tellarites andorians that bluish race from Elaan of Troyius The Gorn The Tholians
plus the movies have a plethora of suitable aliens
the Arcturian Clones, the Deltans, the Mazarites, the Caitians, that big headed alien from IV... those masked creatures from IV (Which could have been Breen for all we know) and a few more of those creatures from Rurapenthe - which included a few of the species from TMP... aslo there were those aliens on the rec deck, and what was that strange alien to Kirk's right, on the bridge in TMP?
There were also a few aliens seen at the Khitomer Conference... Yellow skinned and netted faced races...
Seeing them again would be nice... in the background...
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We didn't really see them in TOS, either. A brief shot of what may or may not have been a head. We did get to see their ships, at least. But they've arguably been mentioned more in the modern era than they were in "The Tholian Web." (Though those mentions are spread out over 10+ years.)
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