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OK, just finished watching Errand of Mercy... John Colicos was GREAT!
Anyway, did anyone notice what that 'document' said that Kor had detailing the Klingon occupation of Organia? It had some sort of 'crest' at the top. If you notice that this similar crest appears later on the wall of Kor's office... and its not the usual old Klingon symbol that we all know.
Also, after seeing this again, I so reckon that the 'green sashed' people from the Khitomer conference were organians. Kirk could be passed off as one of them. And as someone pointed out, Uhura wasn't arresting one of the green-sashed people, but merely holding one of them back from what was going on.
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They, from the ONE planet, controlled the entire Federation and Klingon Empire... at that time. Neither side could even so much as TOUCH a weapon. They didn't LIKE to do anything like it, but they did DEFINATELY say that the two would be friends... so why not have them overseeing the beginnings of that Friendship.
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Sadly, John Colicos passed away March 6th of last year.
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Has that been more than a year since he passed away!?! At least he still gave us "Once More Unto the Breach".
Andrew
------------------ Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us. Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving. Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
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The Star Trek 6 novel mentions that there was no word from the Organians. Starfleet expected them to do something, but they seemed to have disappeared. Maybe went to the same place as Kosh and the other First Ones, oops, sorry, wrong show. The ST6 novel also mentions Carol Marcus being injured in a Klingon raid, and that explains why Kirk was so pissed off at them.
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I thought it was made clear in the movie that Kirk HATED the Klingons because they killed his son.
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Well, the Carol Marcus plotline was in the book. . . but it wasn't certain it was Klingons who did it - they were testing out their firing-when-cloaked doohickey after all. And it was pretty nonsensical, Kirk going "I hate Klingons because they might or might not have done a raid in which my ex got injured."
No. Far better was the way he hated Klingons for killing his son, and in the end he discovers that not all Klingons are bad.
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Yeah. They probably never much cared about parenting for us humanoids; when they saw us intruding their planet, they decided the neighborhood was gone and packed their stuff and left. They had been considering that for a while anyway, since they no longer needed corporeal bodies, but this was the last straw.
To keep us from following, they then cooked up a story about them "caring" for us and "helping" us avoid war and "promoting cooperation" in the future. An initial show of force made us give up our hot war for a while and go to cold war instead, and bought enough time for the Organians to depart. When we found out we had been fooled and the Organians weren't enforcing their peace any longer, we just shrugged and decided to go on with the cold war since it was going so nicely for us. The Klingons did the same.
(BTW, the ST6 novelization claims there was an Earth-human delegation at Khitomer, in addition to Klingon, Vulcan and Romulan ones. No separate Starfleet delegation, and all the colors were changed - perhaps the novelist followed an early script version?)
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I just rewatched EoM. The symbol on top of the document is not quite the same as the wall symbol. The document was most likely just printed on Organian paper (and the only thing I could read was "KLINGON EMPIRE").
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Not quite the same? So it is similar, then?
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If it's pretty much the same, we could assume they are the same, seeing as there is not always the best dialogue between production sections.
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I wouldn't think we'd need to attribute motives so base to the Organians. It seems just as likely to me that, once the Federation/Klingon peace was getting off the ground, they decided it was time to let the two go the rest of the way on their own.
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