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Oberth-class ships have the peculiar tendency to spontaneously change their size in proportion to other vessels. No scientist or respected nitpicker to this day has discovered the reason why. One can only reason the FX people are botching it up.
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The Tsiolkovsky was the size of the Enterprise!
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The Miranda model was last labled as the Saratoga prior to appearing in the movie.
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And after that DS9 appearance, the model re-received its roll bar - a component that typically carries the ship name and registry, albeit in very fine print.
I wonder how many names the "Generations" ship actually had. The saucer name and rego would probably have been altered to fit the needs of the story, but the tiny nacelle numbers or under-saucer labeling might not; and the rollbar might have had a third set of names and numbers.
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If they didn't do any relabeling, the model would have had the rollbar with the Brattain markings while the rest of the ship had the Saratoga markings. I've see pics where the nacelles had the NCC-31911 markings.
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If they stripped down and redid the Nebula for Generations, then you'd assume that they'd spend some time relabelling the other two ships.
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Yeah, but the Farragut was specifically named in the movie. We never got any name for the other two so they didn't have to be changed or relabeled in any way. We think the Oberth might be named Valiant because someone once saw a special where some SFX company did a CGI Oberth and named it Valiant. We know nothing about the Miranda at all and I doubt any info was given in the script at all. If the Miranda was also CGI, it could also have gotten a new and different name, but like I said, we know nothing about the Miranda and I doubt the script called for anything specific.
------------------ [Bart's looking for his dog.] Groundskeeper Willy: Yeah, I bought your mutt - and I 'ate 'im! [Bart gasps.] I 'ate 'is little face, I 'ate 'is guts, and I 'ate the way 'e's always barkin'! So I gave 'im to the church. Bart: Ohhh, I see... you HATE him, so you gave him to the church. Groundskeeper Willy: Aye. I also 'ate the mess he left on me rug. [Bart stares.] Ya heard me!
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PopMaze is referring to me. In the mid-90's, the Discovery Channel ran a series on the special effects of movies. One of the shows in the series included information on the Star Trek movies. The camera crew were at ILM and were talking to a ILM employee. He talked about the engineering of Star Fleet ships-the nacelles had to be at a certain distance from the ship so as to protect the crew. The model he used for this talk was the USS Valiant, NCC-20000, Oberth Class.
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I was just talking about how, with the model guys - they used to name their ships even if we didn't see the registries... or hear them during the episode.
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True, they did that, but I think they have gotten a little lax about doing such things when a ship is not seen up close. So even if a ship may be named in the script, the model may still not be changed accordingly. And if the ship is not named in the script, I don't think they bother with changing anything.
Of course, if a ship is seen up close it may be relabeled even if it's not identified in the script.
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