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WAS the new commbadge introduced specifically for Voyager, though? If so, and they wanted to have a change then before tying thermselves down to having the old-style for the next seven years, it's a pity that they didn't extend the same logic to the phasers (which magically changed after "The 37s").
And by the time of "Coda," any such thoughtfulness had gone out the window when they had Janeway's father wearing a commbadge style that hadn't existed when he died. . .
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I've also heard that the new badge was made for Generations, but most of my sources say it was for Voyager. Either way, they were in preproduction both at the same time so it was probably a joint decision and a moot point anyway.
I've never credited the producers of Voyager as being 'thoughtful' At least the uniforms didnt magically turn grey. (although they could have decided to once they got the patterns from Starfleet in 'Message in a Bottle')
And Admiral Janeway was an alien illusion, so they wouldnt know what old combadges looked like ;-) But Janeway should have, and it was taken from her mind.
That gaffe led that admirals uniform, which should be in the '2350s-2365' era uniforms to be placed in the '2366-2373' uniform section of ST:The Magazine.. all the more proof they have their heads up their asses
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quote: The earliest chronological use of the AGT comm badge we've seen is LaForge in "Timeless". And he was still wearing the FC uni. So the comm badge changes before the uniforms do...but that still doesn't narrow the date down enough. It was, what, 25 years in the future? How far ahead was AGT?
IIRC, "Timeless" was supposed to be set fifteen years in the future. The "current" part of the episode took place in 2375, which puts the future events in 2390.
AGT was set 25 years in the future from season 7 (2370), which means LaForge's use of the badge is 5 years before AGT.
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Voyager finale spoilers $ $ $ $ $ $ And Endgame was set even farther ahead than AGT, IIRC correctly. 33 years after Voyager's 7th season.
So, that means that the FC uniforms will be in use for at least the next 12-15 years, but sometime before that, the combadges will change at least once, eventually arriving at the AGT design. Soon thereafter, the uniforms will also change to the AGT uniforms and will remain in use for at least the next 10 years or so.
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No kidding, they received the low end of the AGT budget and then for more future scenes it was cheaper to re-use crappy uniforms then make new ones. Unfortunately if they did that then everybody would bitch about lack of continuity.
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Well, now that they've shown those uniforms in at least three future timelines, and the commbadges alos in a fourth, I think they should stick to it.
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Theyve also shown a beautiful ship bisected by a third warp nacelle and phaser cannon in the future.
No, i think that if the future looks like shit, we should try to change it, not blindly go along.
Wow, it sounds like im talking about more than cheesy uniforms here
ps.. im not dissing the return of trek to a colorful format.. i just think the AGT desgins need some serious tweaking. especially after endgame, where they didnt even fit everyone very well.
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Wait, I thought they spent 26 years in the DQ, and future-Endgame was 10 years after that? Oh, what the fuck, shows how un-memorable the bloody episode was. . .
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IMHO , the Uniforms used from ST:II - ST:VI were the best. But i guess that uniform gave starfleet a more 'militaristic' look, than those jumpsuits do.
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