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Picard is (as of the last year of VGR) 68 years old.
When Picard met Kirk in 'Generations' Picard was 62. Kirk was.. 62. Interesting, huh?
Nechayev was probably younger than Picard, as was Pressman and Kennelly (unless, due to Elias Vaughn-style 24th century aging, they were much older than they appeared)
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quote:- Or for stranding Voyager in the Delta Quadrant to begin with
I'm sure that Starfleet would love to hang Janeway, but the problem is that Starfleet command probably made big news of voyagers survival in the DQ during the Dominion War i.e. Human intrest stories , propaganda "Fight hard so Voyager has something worth coming home to!" etc.
Of course once they realised what had happened they peobably hoped that theyed have time to bury it on the back pages of newspapers, along with stories about the harvest on Nowhere II, once she arrived but Janeways arrival a light year away from Earth saying that she's just neutred the Borg wouldn't have helped.
So instead of risking a public backlash they do what large organizations have done with icompetnes before, promote them to an area were they can't do any damage. Of course this does not answer the question of why they didn't try black mailing her in to resiging ('You resign or we charge Tuvok, Paris, 7 of 9 with various crimes') or why she hasn't had a vist by S31.
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Yeah, I guess the bottom line still counts for something in the 24th century.
Silly net analogy #74565: How would you treat the captain who in 1934 goes AWOL with his entire ship somewhere in the Pacific, and in late 1941 reports back telling "I just blew to hell half the Japanese fleet, and btw, here's something called the H-bomb, which you can deliver using this nifty thing called the supersonic bomber - my personal contact from the Empire here will help you with the details, but remember to let my Incredible Trained Chimp Doctor accompany her, since she's carrying in her system some selective biowarfare agents we might want to unleash at a later date, and the Chimp knows how"?
If Starfleet is not morally too outraged at somebody handing over the victory to them so easily, they'll probably deify Janeway concurrently with the promotion ceremony.
Shik
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Minor thought detail: how is Shelby's ego handling the fact that now some other person (another woman, no less, & one who actually got her own command...unless she really DID get Sutherland) knows more about Borg than her?
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She won't mind - she's busy fighting old Greek gods in the former (but possibly soon to be resurrected) Thallonian empire, somewhere in the Beta quadrant near Alpha Carinae. Read the "New Frontier" books... She's got the promotion, two starship commands so far, plus a husband and an apparently partially divine stepson. Borg? Who cares about Borg?
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That's just a hobby project. She has been fighting religious zealots, planet-eating dark masses and the Timeship Relativity lately, and felt like taking a day off. And battling spaceborne triremes with a 24th century top-of-the-line starship doesn't sound as difficult as braving personally shielded, teleporting gods with nothing but an MP-5 and a confiscated raygun or two.
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Could be worse, could have an MP3 instead. 8)
I'm curious why the mere fact she got Voyager transported to, then stranded in, the DQ should earn Janeway a court martial. Sure, some of her subsequent command decisions over the next seven years are slightly suspect, but why should a humanitarian gesture automatically condemn her, even if there were potential Prime Directive implications?
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Exactly. That's what I think every time I hear someone wonder why Janeway would continue in good favor with Starfleet.
Getting knocked on your butt by a super powerful alien isn't proof of negligent command. And it certainly wouldn't get her court martialed. On the other hand, neither would having left things alone and using the array to come back in the first place. That decision would probably have been acceptably justifiable citing prime directive considerations.
So...her record goes like this: 1. Her ship and crew were abducted by a super powerful extra galactic alien. 2. She made one questionable decision that apparently caused very little long-term damage to the Ocampan civilization but was a real sacrifice for the Voyager crew. 3. She faced and survived countless threats making only a handful of questionable decisions over the course of 7 years which can easily be attributed to the extremem situations she was in. 4. She makes it home with so much new technology and information on the Delta Quadrant that the R&D boys will be wetting themselves 10 years from now.
There will be no courts martial for the Voyager crew
Shik
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Or rather, there WILL be an inquiry as a matter of course, but the chances of proceeding to an Article 12 hearing are (as Dr. Cavanaugh said last night)"diddly over squat."
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