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Yes, yes, I say we kill them tonight.......
Still, the amount of 'volunteer' time spent building a starship bigger than a raft must be forbidding.....
or is it all done on a community service basis????
I think that was a bad canonical line that should be ripped from the pages from which Stewart read them.......
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Sorry, this is going to be a rambling post...
World War 3 (Eugenics War?) must've been a real bitch. Maybe it was devestating enough to actually burn alot of the hate out of the world.
I know, I know, that's ridiculous. But it would explain why there aren't so many arabs, mexicans, indians, etc. etc. in the future. (Aside from the Wasp demographics that watch the show, of course.)
Only problem with that is that they gave the number of 600 million dead somewhere in regards to that war...which, while being a fantastically large number, is not going to make much of a dent in the world's population.
We also don't know that much about what the major philosophers of the future have had to say. Considering that one or two of them might have been genetically enhanced, they might have developed a philosophy that was both powerful and accessible to the common man (which David Hume basically said was only rarely possible, and I think only Marx ever truly achieved)
Random Thoughts:
How much are the Fed children indoctrinated from birth? Must be pretty intensive, I'd say, if virtually the entire world is of one homogenous mindset...
Where ARE all the dissetent groups? We've seen some of them that have problems with Cardassia, but Jesus, how many people in the Federation really give a shit about that particular region (before the War, of course) of space?
How much did Vulcan Logic influence Earth culture? What, it had NO effect? Where are the imitation Logic Academies on Earth?
when did the first replicator come online? Who built it? I'll bet hard Federation cash that THAT had as much impact on human life as First Contact did, if not more.
Several intermediate technologies apparently didn't exist...for example, nanoprobes from the Borg should have some sort of Federation analog, right? What, they went right from actually growing and cultivating their food to zapping it into existence in the replicators without ever using nanotechnology? Huh? How did they figure out how to do that without gradiant steps in matter manipulation?
Question: I remember that Khan was around during the late nineties or so...but don't I also recall an epi of Voyager where Janeway went back to San Francisco in 1999? There was social chaos in that episode, but nothing compared to the way things were described by elsewhere. Or are my dates wrong?
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"Future's End" took VOY back to '96, not '99. '96 is also the same year Khan took off in the Botany Bay. One theory is that the Eugenics Wars didn't take place in the '90s, but I don't buy that. Another theory is that Los Angeles simply wasn't affected. But since there was no indication whatsoever that there was a major world-wide war going on, that seems unreasonable, too. Personally, I think that Braxton's changing of the timeline (crashing and letting Hnery Starling take his 29th-century tech) simply caused the Eugenics Wars to not happen. Of course, after the timeline was corrected, the Eugenics Wars come back and Henry Starling goes back to just being a hippie.
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Or, as my theory goes, Star Trek's history of the period from 1966 to 15 years after an episode's airdate is subject to the same fucked-up laws of physics that allow black holes to have cracks in their event horizons and Saavik to mysteriously change her appearance over the course of a few weeks and warp factor conversions to come out differently depending on the circumstances and stardates to not convert perfectly to Gregorian dates.
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Maybe the Eugenics Wars were quiet, covert wars rather than out-and-out fighting?
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Seems like an awful lot of sneaky pete killing, 600 million is a tad high for that....
A limited nuclear exchange, targetting places with huge populations, Chinese cities, New York, LA, and the such would achieve this without too much trouble. LA not being hit could be chalked up to a prototype ABM system being installed there.....
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"How much are the Fed children indoctrinated from birth? Must be pretty intensive, I'd say, if virtually the entire world is of one homogenous mindset..."
I've always found a line from "In the Cards" fascinating in this respect. Jake repeats pretty much word for word Picard's bit about "improving yourself" from "The Neutral Zone", except that instead of Picard's passion and belief, Jake says it as if it's been taught to him by rote.
Certainly Sisko's joy over the baseball card seems to jibe with Picard's "Mankind no longer cares about possessions". But in many ways we're less perfect than we were in 2364. And in others, a lot more. Especially Crusher.
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